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Wave definitely isn't ''just another'' compact car. After all, how many can claim that they were designed at a cutting-edge studio in Turin, Italy? Exactly. Wave's modern look takes on two distinct forms - a stylized four-door sedan and a striking five-door hatchback. Both models feature a high roof and a 2480 mm (97.6 in.) wheelbase for a confident feel and solid road presence.

Smooth Operator
Wave offers an extremely quiet ride thanks to its silky-smooth five-speed manual or optional four-speed automatic transmission. Other measures taken to cut down on road and engine noise include the use of a large intake resonator and dual-muffler exhausts.

Pontiac Wave. Go for a ride.

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I'd buy that before an Aveo. Not too bad, if you are in the market for a car like that.
 

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o-oh- impressive grille insert. :rolleyes: I'm glad this is a Canada only model. This is what Chevy is for-- Pontiac should never be brought so down market. But Canada is a totally different market than the U.S.-- they like things a little different up there.

I do like the color very much though...
 

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Originally posted by Ming@Jan 10 2004, 05:02 AM
Wave definitely isn't ''just another'' compact car. After all, how many can claim that they were designed at a cutting-edge studio in Turin, Italy? Exactly.
They're joking, right?
 

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i like the rims better then the Aveo's, even though they still arent that great. hopefully if the Aveo does well its first year it will get some better wheels as a present.
 

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The only reason GM added the Wave is because Canadians love little cars, kinda like how Americans love SUV's...
 

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This is an interesting, if older article:

First Drive: 2004 Chevrolet Aveo, Optra, Epica
By Greg Wilson

Wednesday October 1 9:15 AM EST

Vancouver, British Columbia - In the last few years, South Korean automakers Kia and Hyundai have gobbled up a large portion of Canada's entry-level car market, and are now moving into minivan, SUV and luxury car categories with competitive models at lower prices.

This hasn't gone unnoticed by the major American and Japanese auto manufacturers. The entry-level market in particular, is where automakers capture those important first-time buyers, who, if they're satisfied with their car, may go on to purchase another vehicle from the same manufacturer. A lifetime of brand loyalty can start with that first car.

Though it's Canada's largest automobile company, General Motors is sadly lacking in the entry-level category. The aging Cavalier and Sunfire have been freshened and incentivized, and they're still very popular, but how long can this go on? The subcompact Metro and Firefly disappeared in the 2000 model year. The Saturn Ion is still a bit of a niche player.

GM's solution was to buy a controlling interest in the assets of Korean automaker, Daewoo - now renamed GM Daewoo Auto and Technology Company (GMDAT) - and build lower-priced cars in Korea for the world market. The first three cars from this new venture are sold under different names, depending on where you are. In Canada, they're badged as Chevrolets - the Aveo, Optra and Epica. As well, the Aveo will be offered as the Suzuki Swift+, and the Epica will be sold as the Suzuki Verona. In the United States, Chevrolet will get the Aveo, but not the Optra and Epica. However, the Optra and Epica will be sold in the U.S. as the Suzuki Firenza and Suzuki Verona. In the rest of the world, the three cars will be known as the Daewoo Kalos, Lacetti, and Magnus.

A bit confused? Who could blame you? It's going to be un uphill battle for GM to create consumer awareness about these cars. On the bright side, GM now has three viable competitors for the low-priced Kias and Hyundais - and a large network of 450 Chevrolet dealers to service them.

Interestingly, this is not the first time GM has attempted to sell a Korean car under a GM nameplate in Canada. Remember the 1989 Passport Optima and the 1992 Pontiac LeMans? They were Daewoos based on an Opel Kadett design.

There's another aspect to the Daewoo saga that should be mentioned. After General Motors Daewoo Auto and Technology Company was formed in 2002, the old Daewoo company, its network of North American dealerships, and their customers were left out in the cold. GMDAT has no association with previous Daewoo dealers, and does not sell or support the older Daewoo models, the Lanos, Nubira and Leganza - even though technically the Aveo is the next generation Lanos and the Epica is a freshened version of the Leganza. This must really piss off previous Daewoo owners, but nobody seems to care about them.

Aveo

The smallest of the bunch, the subcompact Aveo, was styled by Giorgetto Giugiaro's ItalDesign studios and is offered as a four-door hatchback and a four-door sedan. It's similar in size to the Hyundai Accent, Kia RX-V, Toyota Echo and the upcoming Suzuki Swift+. Prices start at$13,480 and standard equipment on the base model includes a 103 horsepower 1.6 litre four cylinder engine, 5 speed manual transmission, 14 inch tires, power steering, tilt steering wheel, AM/FM radio, tachometer, intermittent wipers, split folding rear seatbacks and dual airbags. For only another $500 more, Aveo LS models add air conditioning, CD player with MP3 playback, power windows, power door locks, remote entry, and heated mirrors. You can dress it up with an optional appearance package which includes alloys, fog lamps, and a spoiler on hatchback models. A four-speed automatic transmission, anti-lock brakes, power sunroof, and premium audio system are available as options.

My first impression of this car is that it is a much better car than the Daewoo Lanos, its predecessor. There are significant improvements in interior quality, interior quietness, control layout, and overall quality. I got the same impression with the Optra and Epica. It appears that a lot has changed under GM's supervision.

Of course, the Aveo is an entry-level car, and the interior is only big enough for four adults and the small engine strains going up hills and is a bit noisy at times. But I liked its nimble driving manners and short turning circle. And the hatchback has a nifty, tumble-over rear seat that greatly increases the amount of cargo room. Backed by Chevrolet, the Aveo will be available to communities across Canada instead of just the major urban centres, and should prove popular with first-time buyers conscious of price - just like the old Chevy Metro was.

The Aveo is manufactured in Bupyong, South Korea.

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They lied

GM said that Pontiac Canada wasn't going to get a entry level car (ie Aveo). and we would have to do with the Vibe.
 

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Any pictures of the pursuit?
 

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I hate this thing, I was almost able to swallow the Aveo as being a Chevrolet, but A PONTIAC!! Obviously GM is not learning their lesson here. Pontiac should not have such a small entry level vehicle...the Vibe is low enough...
 

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Originally posted by TaHoE@Jan 11 2004, 10:04 AM
I hate this thing, I was almost able to swallow the Aveo as being a Chevrolet, but A PONTIAC!! Obviously GM is not learning their lesson here. Pontiac should not have such a small entry level vehicle...the Vibe is low enough...
Yeah, but at least it is not coming to the U.S. :lol:
 

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Originally posted by nsap@Jan 11 2004, 12:27 PM

Yeah, but at least it is not coming to the U.S. :lol:
Yes, but I wouldn't mind seeing the Chevrolet Optra down here as the entry level Pontiac, replacing the 20-odd year old Sunfire at the bottom. At least its a step up from the Aveo. That and the 5-door Optra introduced in Montreal last week.







http://www.gmcanada.com/english/vehicles/c...r_showroom.html
 

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Originally posted by Ming@Jan 11 2004, 11:49 AM
but I wouldn't mind seeing the Chevrolet Optra down here as the entry level Pontiac, replacing the 20-odd year old Sunfire at the bottom.
ah- I don't like that idea either. :D

If pontiac is going to establish itself as a premium sport brand in the U.S., it needs no entry level of the sort. Yes, the Sunfire does need to see the big axe-- but an Optra does not need to replace it. Small car is ok- but it must truly offer some sport value and be of high build quality. True entry level-- the cheap stuff- that should be left to Chevrolet.

Canada, however-- it's a different fish. If they're offering rebadged Civics as Acuras, then I see no reason why Pontiac can't get an Aveo and an Optra. Canadians have an affinity toward cheap, small cars-- go them.... Just don't let any cheap Pontiac stuff leak into the U.S. market.
 

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Originally posted by TaHoE@Jan 11 2004, 04:04 PM
I hate this thing, I was almost able to swallow the Aveo as being a Chevrolet, but A PONTIAC!! Obviously GM is not learning their lesson here. Pontiac should not have such a small entry level vehicle...the Vibe is low enough...
Think before you post.

This is Canada, not the USA. In many other countrys most people buy compact cars, and subcompacts are more common. Canada included.

Its the USA that is the exception, here mid sizers are the sales leaders despite higher prices.
 

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Originally posted by Erunion+Jan 11 2004, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Erunion @ Jan 11 2004, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TaHoE@Jan 11 2004, 04:04 PM
I hate this thing, I was almost able to swallow the Aveo as being a Chevrolet, but A PONTIAC!!  Obviously GM is not learning their lesson here.  Pontiac should not have such a small entry level vehicle...the Vibe is low enough...
Think before you post.

This is Canada, not the USA. In many other countrys most people buy compact cars, and subcompacts are more common. Canada included.

Its the USA that is the exception, here mid sizers are the sales leaders despite higher prices. [/b][/quote]
Canada or not, Pontiac is trying to establish itself as a premium brand, they cannot do that by re-badging a Daewoo from Korea. Why can't the Aveo just be there? Why must GM have a need to stuff as many nameplates into a region based on the exact same car with a new grille? I could understand if they offered a much more powerful engine in a coupe format, but 103HP and Pontiac shouldn't even belong in the same paragraph, let alone on a car....
 

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The dealership network in Canada is different from that in the US.
Pontiac & Buick are always bundled together. Chevrolet and Oldsmobile are bundled together There is never a seperate dealership for an individual GM brand.

The Pontiac/Buick dealers don't care that Pontiac and Buick are more prestigious nameplates than Chevy. They think that they will lose business on the low-end of the market by not having entry level models in showrooms. Many Canadians buy economy cars. Pontiac/Buick dealers don't want to lose the sales traffic.

I think that it is more to please the dealerbase than the clientbase that GM has made certain models available to both Pontiac and Chevy.

The same events occured several years ago when the "Asuna" brand was created for Pontiac/Buick dealers to go up against the GEO brand at Chevrolet.
 
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