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Worried that the Camaro is being overexposed before its launch next year, Chevrolet has gone mum with official word about the car, while going to the unusual step of testing cars without camouflage in the hopes that spy photographers and the public would tire of seeing the same cars over and over again. Fat chance.

Recently, the Camaro underwent testing at the Nürburgring and we've taken the liberty of adding some stripes and badging to the cars to give a better picture of what it will look like in production trim. Our sources tell us the sheet metal on the test cars is accurate, so what you see in terms of the car's Coke bottle-shaped body, power dome hood with a slit scoop, non-functional louvers ahead of the rear wheels and Corvette-inspired double-bubble roof treatment is what you will get.

The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25. We expect to see the Camaro's lap time closer to the magical 8-minute mark by the time the car is ready for production.

The Nürburgring tests also revealed some other Camaro nuggets, such as the use of 4-piston Brembo brakes and 20-in. wheels shod with Pirelli P245/45ZR-20 tires on the SS version. Non-SS models, which will be powered by V-6s, appear to have 18-in. wheels and higher-profile tires. Both of these wheel and tire combinations, along with suspension settings, were being tested during the session in Germany.

An insider who's driven the car says the performance of the new Camaro "will take 35 years off your life."

Spy photos also revealed that the interior will be very close to the concept car that made its debut at the 2006 North American International Auto Show. The round speedometer and tach are contained in two rectangular chrome-edged bezels behind a 3-spoke steering wheel. The center stack containing the sound system and climate controls is a rounded, organic design, while below are four retro-inspired auxiliary gauges also surrounded by rectangular bezels. While the original cluster included the fuel and coolant temperature gauges, those critical readouts have been relocated to the main instrument cluster. Now, the four console-mounted gauges are for oil temperature, oil pressure, voltage and a new readout showing engine torque output.

Slated to bow in the first quarter of 2009 as an early 2010 model, it's expected that the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels — LS, LT and SS. The base LS may be powered by Chevy's 3.5-liter pushrod V-6 making about 220 bhp. The LT models would use the overhead-cam direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6 developing upward of 300 bhp, while the SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 (similar to that found in the Corvette) tuned to produce around 400–405 bhp. A year after launch, Chevy will introduce a convertible version and after that a high-performance Z28 model with a super-charged 6.2-liter sibling to the Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor known as the LSA. That engine would make somewhere in the neighborhood of 480–500 bhp and is similar to the engine used in the upcoming Cadillac CTS-V.

In light of increasing gas prices, a crash program has been initiated to study the feasibility of offering the 260-bhp turbocharged 2.0-liter four (used in the HHR SS and Cobalt SS) as a possible base engine to replace the 3.5-liter V-6. However, that engine may not be offered until the 2011–2012 model year.
The Camaro will offer a choice of 6-speed automatic or manual transmissions. While both have beefy gearchange levers with baseball-size shift knobs, in the automatic-equipped car we didn't see any provision for a sequential-shift mode on either the shift gate or on the steering wheel or column.

Slated to go up against the Dodge Challenger and Ford Mustang, the Camaro offers a fully independent suspension (like the Dodge) compared with the Ford's live rear axle. Despite the added cost of the independent rear, Chevy is looking to keep base prices in the $20,000–$30,000 bracket, while the SS model could be in the mid- to upper- $30,000 range.
 

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Re: Spied: Camaro with "SS" Badge, Finished Taillights & Racing Stripes

Not a fan of stripes on any car but this car is looking awesome. Hopefully they have the pricing wrong because they have the SS starting in the mid to upper 30's. If that's the case it might be too large of a leap from the V6 to the SS and definately will be the most expensive V8 pony car of the three.

Instead of the 3.5 I would actually rather have the turbo 4 as the base, then the 3.6 D.I. and a V8 in the upper 20's. After that you can go much higher with specialty cars but you really need a V8 to compete with the Mustang and hopefully just under the Challenger RT. The v8 Camaro should not be more expensive than a G8.
 

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Re: Spied: Camaro with "SS" Badge, Finished Taillights & Racing Stripes

The Title for this post is a misleading. These are pics of the black car that was seen in Germany rounding the ring and cruising around. The fine folks at Road and Track saw fit to photoshop some stuff onto the pictures.

From the R&T article itself, "Recently, the Camaro underwent testing at the Nürburgring and we've taken the liberty of adding some stripes and badging to the cars to give a better picture of what it will look like in production trim."
 

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Re: Spied:Camaro w/SS Badge, Finished Taillights, Racing Stripes & Finished Exhaust T

Also, Road and Track incorrectly states the Camaro will have a 3.5 V6. Didn't Lutz already confirm that there will be no base Camaro?
 

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Re: Spied:Camaro w/SS Badge, Finished Taillights, Racing Stripes & Finished Exhaust T

Also, Road and Track incorrectly states the Camaro will have a 3.5 V6. Didn't Lutz already confirm that there will be no base Camaro?
I thought the "base" Camaro could be the turbocharged DI I4 out of the Sky RL and Solstice GXP.
 

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LS3 for me, please :yup:
 

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Holden are pretty good at tuning cars and its handling, the top of the line Camaro should dip below the 8 minute mark.

If Holden also has a string of top class V8 supercar drivers that would give any European drivers a run for their money.

We also have a very good track in Australia called Mount Panorama which is from all reports one of the best in the world and as tricky as the Nurburgring (although not as long).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ErEB2rfGoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VunDn0-o8U
 

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That is a photoshop? Wow, all they did was insert SS emblems.....that took some talent. Anyways, that rearend is screaming for a spoiler of some kind. It looks very unfinished without one of some sort. I hope they don't use that "LT" moniker. It reminds me of the 74-early 80s garbage Camaros. Not as bad as Berlinetta though *shudders*.
 

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Re: Spied:Camaro w/SS Badge, Finished Taillights, Racing Stripes & Finished Exhaust T

I thought the "base" Camaro could be the turbocharged DI I4 out of the Sky RL and Solstice GXP.
We just had proof it will be the DI 3.6L V6

The 3.5's the old pushrod V6 (not nearly has old as the 3.4, but still as inefficient. Admittedly, it makes a sweet noise) they used in the last iteration of the Malibu and previous base Aura (in the US, I don't recall Canada having the 3.5 for base).

It's a pretty common mistake, as most automakers use 3.5L V6s (Honda, Toyota, for instance), while GM is using a 3.6L.

Also I dont think the LS, LT and SS "Impala" name scheme is going to fly either, we have seen RS stripes on clay models.

I expect that the final outcome will be base, RS, Z28 and SS?

You're forgetting LTZ.

Last I heard the Camaro would have the 3.6 DI V6 and the LS3. They said they were considering the 2.0 Turbo DI I4 for the Camaro later on.
And it still makes no effin' sense to put an I4 in what's suspected to be a 4000 pound (or more) gorilla. Doesn't matter if it's turbocharged or not, it negates all the advantages of 4-cylinder engines.

A turbo V6 would make sense, however... But that would be stealing away from Saab.
 
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