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OpEd Corvette Mid Z1 or Trad C7?

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Maybe we get both, but if not, which one?
January 9th, 2015
by MonaroSS





Front or Mid?
Where is Corvette's Future?







So we have now seen the test mule of a new GM mid-engined sports car. It could be a new Cadillac, but in all likelihood it would be both a Corvette and a Cadillac to increase production numbers and amortize the cost of what is likely to be a carbon fiber tub.

We all love the front V8 powered Corvette but there are finite limitations to getting power to the ground. Move the weight over those rear wheels though and you get both traction benefits and sharper turn responses for track work.

We don't know if this would be an add to the Corvette range or the next Corvette. But look below at the chop I did of what it could look like if on sale today or soon with the current 'Vette styling themes. Could you live with a mid-engined Corvette, would you desire a mid-engined Corvette?

What do you think, tell us and come back to comment on what others thought as well...




PS. Given some have questioned luggage space in mid-engined cars, why not make two versions of a mid-engined Corvette? The Shorttail, which all the high performance models could be based on, and either Short or Longtail for ordinary buyers depending on their utility needs. Given how 'Vette's are made a trunk extension would be an easy add and easy to incorporate on the line.











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Looks less like compensation for a tiny peter than the FMR Corvette.

I would do both, keep a pretty traditional Stingray, and go balls-out design-wise on a C8... or maybe keep the R8/McLaren looks on the Corvette and throw the Lamborghini looks on the Cadillac. :)
Wow - your mid engine chop is awesome! I wasn't that enthusiastic about a mid-engined Vette as I think the porportions of mid-engined vehicles can be a little odd (exotic yes, but odd); but this looks great! I say mid-engined.

How about Vette goes mid-engined and Cadillac continues on with the rwd C7 chassis to make their own vehicle that doesn't have to be as laser focused on performance?
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Looking at MonaroSS's chops, anyone else think the new quarter window on the C7 was GM hinting something?
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Very well done picture Monaro. But I would have left the hood louvers. A mid engine car is still going to want the radiator up front.
It's important to have both. The Corvette needs to stay the American sports car, a car that's obtainable by the average guy if he works hard enough. A mid engine super/hyper car is not that car.
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Wow - your mid engine chop is awesome! I wasn't that enthusiastic about a mid-engined Vette as I think the porportions of mid-engined vehicles can be a little odd (exotic yes, but odd); but this looks great! I say mid-engined.

How about Vette goes mid-engined and Cadillac continues on with the rwd C7 chassis to make their own vehicle that doesn't have to be as laser focused on performance?
Hmmm, sounds like to me, you're suggesting Cadillac make their very own Aston Martin (not that I'm complaining). :)
Very well done picture Monaro. But I would have left the hood louvers. A mid engine car is still going to want the radiator up front.
I would have twin radiators at the rear to avoid the hot water pipes running under/through the cab, which can be a real issue. It also keeps more weight rearward. The front radiator would cool the aircon and you could run smaller pipes to the front for transmission/diff/engine oil radiators.




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Corvette is getting closer and closer to becoming its own brand.

The Vette purists might not like it but fortunately or unfortunately for GM, they'll all be dead soon.

The guys that grew up with muscle cars in America's motoring heyday are dwindling. Corvette will need to be something that can survive world-wide and compete head-on w/ Porsche or even Ferrari. That means sedans and SUVs and hybrid, mid-engined super cars. Things that could never be messed with while the old man is still around.

Sounds crazy right?

Looks awesome Monaro... I can't wait to see how this all pans out.
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Maybe we get both, but if not, which one?
January 9th, 2015
by MonaroSS





Front or Mid?
Where is Corvette's Future?







So we have now seen the test mule of a new GM mid-engined sports car. It could be a new Cadillac, but in all likelihood it would be both a Corvette and a Cadillac to increase production numbers and amortize the cost of what is likely to be a carbon fiber tub.

We all love the front V8 powered Corvette but there are finite limitations to getting power to the ground. Move the weight over those rear wheels though and you get both traction benefits and sharper turn responses for track work.

We don't know if this would be an add to the Corvette range or the next Corvette. But look below at the chop I did of what it could look like if on sale today or soon with the current 'Vette styling themes. Could you live with a mid-engined Corvette, would you desire a mid-engined Corvette?

What do you think, tell us and come back to comment on what others thought as well...









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nice work!
it will get me out of my Ferrari :)
Wow - your mid engine chop is awesome! I wasn't that enthusiastic about a mid-engined Vette as I think the porportions of mid-engined vehicles can be a little odd (exotic yes, but odd); but this looks great! I say mid-engined.

How about Vette goes mid-engined and Cadillac continues on with the rwd C7 chassis to make their own vehicle that doesn't have to be as laser focused on performance?
Or... break Corvette off from Chevrolet specifically and move the whole of the brand upmarket, while keeping a traditional Corvette at $50k-$70k as the base model.

Sell THAT in certain Chevrolet dealers if you want to still, but only allocate the upper end Corvettes to Corvette-specific dealerships.

Again:

1) Stingray, Stingray convertible + high performance Z06
2) Zora, Zora spyder + high performance ZR1
3) Stingray-based shooting brake
4) Stingray-based sedan, or a four-door version of the shooting brake
5) Slightly lifted Zora with unique body elements (See: Italdesign Parcour, Audi Nanuk concepts)?
6) Dipping even lower than Stingray with the mid-engine platform for an entry level car? Do it with Alpha? Does that conflict with Camaro?

I'm sure there are more opportunities. Maybe it's not a necessity for Corvette dealers or a separation of the brand (as a total thrust upmarket is the only way that makes sense and would dilute the entire purpose of Corvette), but a mandatory separation of Corvettes from the rest of the showroom (at qualifying dealers, say only at dealers that sell x amount of Corvettes/yr) makes more sense to me.

Another opportunity for Corvette/Cadillac... RWD Corvettes, AWD Cadillac.

Looking at MonaroSS's chops, anyone else think the new quarter window on the C7 was GM hinting something?
As much as folding dollar bills predicted 9/11.
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Hmmm, sounds like to me, you're suggesting Cadillac make their very own Aston Martin (not that I'm complaining). :)
Yes, exactly!
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Can you make a Cadillac Supercar, Monaro?
Can you make a Cadillac Supercar, Monaro?
He has, and it was pretty good. The Ciana.



Based off the Astra GTC. I always thought the wheels were killer.

I wouldn't mind another crack at it either, though. :)
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Found this looking for the Ciana, by the way:

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A company that cannot even build a respectable performance luxury product (Cadihack) has no business going beyond selling $40k fake sports cars that steal other people's designs and throws them together as a Shamvette.
Found this looking for the Ciana, by the way:

I think it needs more air vents.... :D



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The chop looks good but reminds me to much of a hybrid of the Ferrari 458 and F430. I say leave the engine front mounted. It hasn't stopped the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG and the new GT from being EPIC. Besides everyone is all like "we need a mid engined Vetted Stat!!!" But at the same time folks say "that's to much money!!!!" LOL. I say leave it traditional and some what affordable to those who want one. Not some super car that starts at $200k+
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