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No merging of Holden & Chevrolet brands, say Devereux

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No merging of Holden & Chevrolet brands, say Devereux

Haitham Razagui
15 June 2012
www.goauto.com.au

GM committed to Holden brand, seeking ‘smart’ ways to avoid convergence with Chevy15 June 2012

Holden is releasing three models that feature a Chevrolet style dual-port grille this year, but the company’s chairman and CEO Mike Devereux suggests this is not indicative of a convergence between the brands said that Holden and Chevrolet will maintain their own brand identities.

He added that there is no way General Motors will walk away from the Holden brand in favour of the now global Chevrolet, despite the “obvious marketing efficiencies that lend themselves to having one brand”.

The just-launched Colorado one-tonne ute, the related Colorado 7 SUV that will arrive in December and Volt range-extender EV all feature the Chevy grille design, with the iconic US brand’s bow tie emerging from the edges of the Holden badge on the latter.

Holden says re-tooling for a separate Volt grille design is not cost-effective as it will be a low-volume niche product, but this argument does not stand for the Colorado, which is expected to become the brand’s third best selling product.

Things look set to return to normal in 2013 when the Trax compact SUV arrives with a specific Holden grille design and Mr Devereux also confirmed next year’s Malibu mid-size sedan will also have a “Holden face”.

In an exclusive interview with GoAuto at the Colorado launch, Mr Devereux reasoned that the dual-port grille “looks great” on the Colorado due to the sheer size of the opening.

“From a Colorado standpoint, I think it looks better with this face on the truck. It is a pretty big front-end, so having one huge front grille on a truck this big, I am not sure it works.”

The global nature of the Chevrolet product line-up that Holden cherry-picks from for Australia and New Zealand means compromises must be made, but Mr Devereux suggested that “smart” solutions are in the works.

“Chevrolet is obviously going to dominate the styling exercise,” he said. “I think there are smart ways – which I can’t tell you right now – that we are solving that conundrum going forward.”

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#3 ·
For now.
 
#5 ·
I hope we can believe this, ut it smacks of a footy coach publicly receiving "the full support of the board"; they normally get the sack within a month.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Does this mean we will never see a RHD Camaro or Vette in OZ besides the overpriced custom converted stuff we get now.

I mean I know we won't see current gen Camaro or Vette however are the next gen gonna be engineered for RHD. I do know the current Camaro was engineered for our market it just that tooling was never created as far as I can figure or find out based on limited info....
 
#8 ·
I agree... No sense in alienating current or potential buyers by changing the Holden brand name to Chevrolet at this point in time. Holden simply has too much brand equity, which would take Chevrolet years to generate in Australia.
 
#9 ·
If they are smart and want to keep cost down they will get with the program and merge the two and give us the RWD cars and we will give them every thing else. Still they should keep their name no sense in messing that up but everything else needs to merge.
 
#11 ·
They pretty much are merged under the skin (badge?). As long as they keep the Holden name, and let us tune the cars for our conditions then they will be fine. GM also need to start giving Holden more access to global projects, which thankfully they are doing. This is what FoMoCo should have done with its local outpost a long time ago, but sadly didnt.
 
#12 ·
They should have used the Ampera front end instead of the Chevy Volt nose for Holden. At least Opel's logo can be swapped directly with Holden's.


Buick and Opel don't share the same grills either after all. They each have their own styling themes on the same products. I don't see this being any different.
 
#14 ·
I guess it depends on your definition of merger. Holden will be Chevrolet of Australia in terms of product selection, but the badge won't change. GM knows the Holden brand is too valuable to give up and killing it would probably cancel out the gained efficiency of bringing the Chevrolet brand.


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#20 ·
Actually, since Commodore is launching here first and had parts of its engineering done here, I've declared that Commodore is just a rebadged Chevrolet SS.

Chevrolet Australia it is! :D
 
#19 ·
Holden is already Chevrolet Australia. The fact they had to reassure people of this speaks volumes to me.
 
#23 ·
...oh, the "merging" will probably happen, whether Holden 'likes' it or not, so the real question is which will it be: a "love-merging" or a "rape-merging" -- because it's surprising what corporations will DO for money!
 
#28 ·
Nothing will change - there will be a locally-assembled vehicle, and imported vehicles rebadged from within the GM empire, or without. We've had Toyotas as Holdens, Vauxhalls, Suzukis, Opels, Isuzus, Chevrolets.

The brand will not change - any more than Telstra or QANTAS. GM would be crazy to. Unless Holden went totally bellyup you do not give away all that brand equity.

When we got Astras and Vectras Holden had little input and limted reqource and contact in Germany - they could select the colours/trims that were there, suspension tunes out of Opel's selection and not much else. Now Holden has solid relationships/mentorship/input into GM Korea and Thailand. So firstly, the cars have more Holden engineering input from the word go which better matches them and secondly Holden can get colours, options, equipment they need.

Holden as an engineering company is also producing more co-operative work than ever - signed new deals with PATAC for SGM model as well as a Buick and Opel. So while they may not engineer/design all their own models they will continue to contribute worthwhile efforts to GM globally. The new Trax/Mokka/Encore is being 100% engine callibration mapped and transmission mapped by Holden. Cruze - suspension tune, trans callibration for all markets. Sonic/Barina, trans callibration. Malibu 2.4, engine/trans.

Sonic/Barina, Orlando, Cruze hatch, Colorado - just some of the vehicles styled and prototyped by Holden. Camaro - ground-up development, still 100% ongoing callibration and engineering of everything except ZL1.

So yes, Holden is Chevrolet. But to some degree, Chev, Buick, Opel, SGM, Vauxhall is Holden.
 
#29 ·
It's all GM. It's one company. Everyone works on everything. Everything has American, German, and probably increasingly Chinese/Australian/Korean DNA. Holden isn't "designing vehicles." They design components for vehicles. Just like GMNA and Opel. Sometimes they do the base architecture, sometimes they tune what someone else did.

Honestly, Holden is probably more "secure" than at any other time. They aren't just the Commodore car company anymore. Having Commodore become increasingly aligned with more "American" products will just free them up to work on Delta and Gamma... So while Commodore is "less" Australian, Australia's engineering work will be maintained by many, many more products.

It's what I've always said.
 
#30 ·
What percentage of a vehicle is actually designed by the manufacturer? Sure they tell the Tier1's how they want it to look or perform for a lot of parts but isn't it the tier1 that does the design for sign off by the manufacturer. I am thinking things like gearboxes, seats, instrument clusters, shockers, infotainment, HVAC etc. Anyone got any figures?
 
#35 ·
Well the new Chevy corporate grill was the first step in the not-a-merger merger thank goodness. That split thing lacked any aggression at all.

My reckoning is the next Cruze will be the next model that shares all bumpers. Apparently Holden can't line the new Cruze wagon up with the locally produced models as they've gone on a slightly different road with our models than that of Korea.

Interesting times ahead. And boo to the stupid Volt badge. It's the Suburban all over again. Looks stupid on a $60000 car.