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http://wot.motortrend.com/6295074/a...s-gt-rs-msrp-by-an-average-of-7000/index.html

"Well the GT-R isn't about to jump into half-million dollar territory anytime soon, but starting now Nissan's 911-fighter isn't quite the bargain it used to be. Automakers around the world are being squeezed by the weak dollar and rising raw material costs, and Nissan is no exception. So to compensate for dramatically more expensive steel and other components, the automaker is announcing an unusual interim price hike for all 2009 GT-Rs, bumping up the car's sticker a full $6990 for base models, and $7190 for Premium variants. Effective immediately, these new MSRPs don't apply to customer orders in dealer hands prior to September 5, but if you'd been waiting until Monday to choose between a GT-R and Aston Martin Vantage, unfortunately you're out of luck. An additional destination and handling charge of $1000 applies to both models as well."
 

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It's a 10% price jump which shows that the intitial price was just to get attention for bang for the buck. It now jumps over the price of the Z06. It's kinda like when the Kappa cars came out and they were advertised to be "under $20,000" and they made like 5 cars that fit the bill so they could have the reputation of that price. Then every car that shows up on the lot is mid to upper 20's. Lame move.
 

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Another strange thing.....

The last batch of GTR's tested by auto magazines are significantly slower at acceleration than the first batch.

Can you say "modified for initial release"?

I knew that you could.
 

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The GTR has never been $70k...all the '08s were marked up and now the '09s are $78+k.

BTW - isn't this kinda what happened to cars like the 300zx/Supra (i.e. eventually priced themselves out of the market)?
 

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The GTR has never been $70k...all the '08s were marked up and now the '09s are $78+k.

BTW - isn't this kinda what happened to cars like the 300zx/Supra (i.e. eventually priced themselves out of the market)?
Initial cost, weight, unavailability of parts, running costs... The older Datsun/Nissan coupes, and the older Supras were well priced, but once the 90's rolled around, they essentially turned into expensive heavy GT cars (think the latest Supra).

Likewise for the GTR, Nissan was selling the car at a loss, so this comes as no surprise. We'll see how well the car keeps up in 3 years when the newer crop of competing sports cars comes out and the GTR is 3 years old. It's already facing a lot of scrutiny, so this will be interesting. Either way, good cars like this force others to push the envelope, and for a consumer, that's always a good thing (horray for better Z06's!)
 

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Proof?

Half second slower to 60mph?

Can't find the exact link but Car And Driver tests show the production cars now available a whole lot slower than the ones they were initially provided with.

Half a second to 60 mph is an eternity for an almost 500 hp car.
 

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Proof?

Half second slower to 60mph?

Can't find the exact link but Car And Driver tests show the production cars now available a whole lot slower than the ones they were initially provided with.

Half a second to 60 mph is an eternity for an almost 500 hp car.
This topic has been beaten to death and you have it wrong. The initial PRE-PRODUCTION CAR was a beast then all subsequent PRE-PRODUCTION CARS were weaker. When Nissan was asked about it they said they haven't decided on a final tune which can make a major difference with a twin turbo car. Then Nissan gave the final PRE-PRODUCTION CAR to the magazines that had the production tune and it was a beast like the very first car. Then when the cars came of the production line they were all like the first and last preproduction cars (a beast).
 
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