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Its fake, edited, made up, ZR1 will run rings over it, Corvette will eat this thing for breakfast, its ugly...etc...etc
 

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The GTR is quick around the ring because of its advanced AWD system and various stability/traction control systems that allow it to turn into a corner quicker.
For me if its quicker around the ring, good for them, it doesn't mean I need to like the car.

Honestly I find the Corvette and 911 more desirable, but good for Nissan for making such a car.

PS: I like the new supercharged Corvette ZR1, and i'm looking forward to its Nurburgring lap time results. I just wonder when GM will make the official announcements, according to some reports, its been spotted at Nurburgring.
 

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Its fake, edited, made up, ZR1 will run rings over it, Corvette will eat this thing for breakfast, its ugly...etc...etc
Thanks for saving about 30 posts. People will deny it being fast until the production cars are out and in the hands of guys who will take them to a road course. Personally I would take a ZR1 any day of the week but those in denial about how bad this car is only embarrass themselves.
 

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YOU DO KNOW that currently most cars have a flying start such as the Pagani?

So even with countless amount of videos, magazine reviews, etc... There are still people that think GTR isnt really fast.

Just wow.
But not the Z06. Or other GM vehicles.

Don't you think it's a pretty big advantage to NOT have to accelerate up to speed at the 'start'? Kinda explains the difference.

Just superwow.:rolleyes:
 

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But not the Z06. Or other GM vehicles.

Don't you think it's a pretty big advantage to NOT have to accelerate up to speed at the 'start'? Kinda explains the difference.

Just superwow.:rolleyes:
But I thought someone said that the articles said the Z06 achieved it's best time on something like, "lap 4" or something like that... So unless the driver slams on the brakes at the end of each lap, and accelerates from a dead stop, wouldn't that mean all the cars had a "running start"? (I don't remember reading any articles where the best time was achieved on the first lap) I think that's what the original poster was saying.
 

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But I thought someone said that the articles said the Z06 achieved it's best time on something like, "lap 4" or something like that... So unless the driver slams on the brakes at the end of each lap, and accelerates from a dead stop, wouldn't that mean all the cars had a "running start"? (I don't remember reading any articles where the best time was achieved on the first lap) I think that's what the original poster was saying.
I see what you're saying. I could have sworn I read that the 'official' times GM put out were standing start.

Maybe I'm wrong. It'd be nice if the times all stated how they were achieved. Like isn't the GT-R said to have used better tires than stock? The GT-R is very fast, don't get me wrong, it just seems a bit out of line that it runs as fast as it does considering it's rated power and weight. The recent C&D test shows times substantially slower than most other tests and they jive with it's power-to-weight ratio.
 

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I see what you're saying. I could have sworn I read that the 'official' times GM put out were standing start.

Maybe I'm wrong. It'd be nice if the times all stated how they were achieved. Like isn't the GT-R said to have used better tires than stock? The GT-R is very fast, don't get me wrong, it just seems a bit out of line that it runs as fast as it does considering it's rated power and weight.
I think all official runs are done with a running start/ flying start.

After the 90 degree turn to the right, the cars accelerate out of the corner, crosses the start/finish line, then slows down to make a 90 degree turn to the left then accelerates again...

CTS-V's Nurburgring run...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhW5VOjRrUc&feature=related
Because of the poor editing, the video abruptly cuts to the car crossing the start/finsh line(0:14 sec) but we can see that it has already gathered some speed when it crosses the start/finish line.

Even the Pagani Zonda's 7:27 run was done that way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbrjvadVA0

The recent C&D test shows times substantially slower than most other tests and they jive with it's power-to-weight ratio.
They mentioned something about the slower times and a different setting for production (USDM GTR?)
That GT-R from the May issue launched at 4500 rpm; 4400 rpm is the final setting for production. This GT-R may have been down on power; the May car ran the quarter-mile in 11.5 seconds at 124 mph. This one couldn’t crack 12 seconds and was a stunning 9 mph slower. (We’ve since tested a third GT-R that was as quick as the first car.)

Despite losing the drag-racing segment of our comparo to the raucous 911 Turbo, the GT-R posted the best lap time (1:26.7) on a 1.5-mile-long portion of Nevada’s Reno-Fernley road course.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...porsche_911_turbo_comparison_test+page-3.html
 

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GTR goes down to the Ford GT: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/06/video-webrides-tv-pits-nissan-gt-r-against-ford-gt-in-super-lap/

Weird. The only 'Ring time I can find for the GT is 7:42.

That didn't look like a 7:29 car vs a 7:42 car to me. You'd think it would be impossible for the GTR to lose...especially on a tight track. I'd like to see more comparison test.
Perhaps its trickier to drive the much lighter and much more powerful RWD Ford GT at Nurburgring. (harder to control?)
 

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I think all official runs are done with a running start/ flying start.

After the 90 degree turn to the right, the cars accelerate out of the corner, crosses the start/finish line, then slows down to make a 90 degree turn to the left then accelerates again...

CTS-V's Nurburgring run...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhW5VOjRrUc&feature=related
Because of the poor editing, the video abruptly cuts to the car crossing the start/finsh line(0:14 sec) but we can see that it has already gathered some speed when it crosses the start/finish line.

Even the Pagani Zonda's 7:27 run was done that way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbrjvadVA0


They mentioned something about the slower times and a different setting for production (USDM GTR?)

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...porsche_911_turbo_comparison_test+page-3.html
I stand corrected on the 'Ring times.

The thing is with the US spec GT-R is that they use the initial, much faster, GT-R as the benchmark then stick us with one that is likely down 75-100hp. This is just figured by viewing the difference in times. So what are we to believe? Will you GT-R trap 115 or 123? BIG difference.
 

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I stand corrected on the 'Ring times.

The thing is with the US spec GT-R is that they use the initial, much faster, GT-R as the benchmark then stick us with one that is likely down 75-100hp. This is just figured by viewing the difference in times. So what are we to believe? Will you GT-R trap 115 or 123? BIG difference.

1.) Your viewing of difference in times is flawed.
2.) Yes, the US version of the GTR is actually BETTER than the Japanese GTR because of the left hand drive position. The way the car is built actually favors left hand drive.
3.) 70-100hp is too much. Don't pull out big #s.
 
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