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Triple-X08 · Jul 22, 2008

ok guys, as you know, i have finished my 83 camaro project. it went better than expected. and it has paid off so far, over the weekend i participated in a car show, local one with a couple of townships and what not, part of a festival we have here in town, car did really good in it, had alot of people looking at it and asking questions, and i wound up getting a couple trophies out of it. so im pretty happy about that.

heres the deal, im looking for another car.

this time, its going to be a full frame body car. something like a chevelle or in that type. i dont know if i want a unibody car, i want something i can build from scratch. i mean, stripped down, powder coat the whole chassis and build everything. i want a LS series engine in it, and modernized electronics and parts. im thinking probably another 9" in the rear, stay stock with the suspension stuff, other than a few things. i want a full interior, like i have now, and i want to build everything. frame off restoration, i want to build the engine, trans, and rear end, all suspension and body work, and paint and trim work. and all interior and electrical.

i want to do everything on it, and it needs to be a GM vehicle. open to any suggestions, and all types of cars, primarily frame cars, may do a unibody, not 100% sure.

plane · Jul 22, 2008

El Camino

RamJet502 · Jul 22, 2008

66 Chevy Chevelle

darndot · Jul 22, 2008

I was looking at Impalas before my Covair. I love a 67, but $$$$$.

How about a B Body

MonteCarloSS86 · Jul 22, 2008

G BODY! Seriously...

Monte Carlo FTW, Grand Prix still FTW but a little less. Maybe a Regal? It's rare to see a nice Regal or GP..

Triple-X08 · Jul 22, 2008

can you remove the body of the monte carlos from the frame completely? i would love a 70 monte. or even a 86 or so ss

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big swede · Jul 22, 2008

I always wanted to do a G-body and put a supercharged 3.8 in it. It would make great torque, get good fuel economy and the engines can be had for dirt cheap. There are also twin screw kits for it now if you really want to crank up the power. The main stumbling block would be an upper intake manifold because taking a FWD L67 and using it in a RWD application would have the manifold facing the firewall.

We could have an Australian person on GMI that might be able to ship you a manifold since the Holden had the SC3800 and RWD. Then again, when it comes to cars, I much prefer different combinations that you don’t see every day.

MonteCarloSS86 · Jul 22, 2008

Triple-X08 said:
can you remove the body of the monte carlos from the frame completely? i would love a 70 monte. or even a 86 or so ss

Yes sir, it's full-frame. You can check out more at www.montecarloss.com, it's a really good resource and has a GREAT forum. A few guys have done full frame-offs.

It's a really good platform to build off of. A stroked 305 (~331 is what they usually stroke it to) would be a fun project, beef up the 200R4 (1985 and up) and add an 8.5" rear (the 7.5" it comes with isn't strong enough for a highly modified/powerful motor) and you're set. Parts are plentiful but can get expensive at times.

But up until 1988 for Monte Carlos you can do a frame-off, they're all full frame. First gen through 1981 (I think '81) are A-bodies and 1982+ are G-bodies.

darndot · Jul 23, 2008

big swede said:
... I much prefer different combinations that you don’t see every day.

There are a few reasons that I picked a Corvair to work on:
1. It is a GM product.
2. You don't see them at most car shows.
3. It was a covertable that I could afford.

It has nothing on the list that you wanted.
I really want one of these.

Triple-X08 · Jul 23, 2008

i would like to stay away from convertables, or any type of soft top.

Smaart Aas Saabr · Jul 23, 2008

big swede said:
I always wanted to do a G-body and put a supercharged 3.8 in it. It would make great torque, get good fuel economy and the engines can be had for dirt cheap. There are also twin screw kits for it now if you really want to crank up the power. The main stumbling block would be an upper intake manifold because taking a FWD L67 and using it in a RWD application would have the manifold facing the firewall.

We could have an Australian person on GMI that might be able to ship you a manifold since the Holden had the SC3800 and RWD. Then again, when it comes to cars, I much prefer different combinations that you don’t see every day.

Why not use the stock L67 supercharger and all? The problem in a traditional "Systeme Panhard" setup is that the throttle body is at the wrong side of the engine. But you could just make a Chevelle style cowl induction setup and it would be right in the proper place!

Or just make the snorkel tube around, surely there is plenty of space in the engine bay for that.

I don't really know how the supercharged 3800 Holdens are set up, I mean they can't really put the throttle body in front as the snout is there, I guess the snorkel just snakes around?

F14CRAZY · Jul 23, 2008

Corvette?

And yes Saabr, with s/c, RWD 3800s they just snake a tube by the firewall

big swede · Jul 23, 2008

darndot said:
There are a few reasons that I picked a Corvair to work on:

I guess the same reasons your pictures of it were awesome to me.

Smaart Aas Saabr said:
Why not use the stock L67 supercharger and all? The problem in a traditional "Systeme Panhard" setup is that the throttle body is at the wrong side of the engine. But you could just make a Chevelle style cowl induction setup and it would be right in the proper place!

Or just make the snorkel tube around, surely there is plenty of space in the engine bay for that.

I don't really know how the supercharged 3800 Holdens are set up, I mean they can't really put the throttle body in front as the snout is there, I guess the snorkel just snakes around?

I would use the stock L67 and supercharger. I always thought that you must have a different upper intake, but maybe just the snorkel going from the throttle body to the engine would do it? I know for sure if you don't change a thing the throttle body would be through the firewall.

eurohazard · Jul 23, 2008

I wish you lived closer to California. I'd love to find a "good home" for my Cadillac! It'd bring a tear to my eye to have all that cool stuff done to a 1971 Cadillac Coupe DeVille!

EldoFan · Jul 23, 2008

How about an H-Body hatchback?? ((1975-80 Monza/Skyhawk/Sunfire/Sunbird))

That might be stretching it, considering you want to use an LS-series engine....not to mention the fact they are comparatively rare.....but they've got sleek looks and one would make quite a head turner when you're finished. :yup:

big swede · Jul 24, 2008

EldoFan said:
How about an H-Body hatchback?? ((1975-80 Monza/Skyhawk/Sunfire/Sunbird))

That might be stretching it, considering you want to use an LS-series engine....not to mention the fact they are comparatively rare.....but they've got sleek looks and one would make quite a head turner when you're finished. :yup:

I had a 3.8 V6 in a 79' Sunbird as my first car so I know the 3.8 fits. Come on Triple-X08 how about an L67 in a (1975-80 Monza/Skyhawk/Sunfire/Sunbird). An easy 280hp/350tq in a 2500lb RWD platform, sounds like a fun sleeper to me.

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/details?adId=90194169

darndot · Jul 24, 2008

I guess you could always do a Vega.

marthaspears · Jul 24, 2008

darndot said:
I guess you could always do a Vega.

i think this one (the Vega) could also be used for your next project...

thanks for the pic...been looking for a pic of this car...

big swede · Jul 24, 2008

marthaspears said:
i think this one (the Vega) could also be used for your next project...

thanks for the pic...been looking for a pic of this car...

That one is way to nice to be used as a project car. I did a little looking around and was shocked at the prices these things continue to hold.

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