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New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March
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As old (and sad) as the 9-5 is, Saab really needs that car THIS fall.
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No kidding. I hope it is on the dealers lots the next day because the current car is incredibly old and out of date.Well... this 9-5 is only 3 years late. GM's improving.
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Let's see. The first 9-5 came out in 1998. For all intents and purposes, it should have been updated 2003. But it's European, so 2005 would have been acceptable. And an MCE did come in 2002 (and again in 2007 to make it look like a raccoon). So, it's 2008 now. Hmmm... and by the time 9-5 rolls out, it will be 2010. A total of 5 years late -- 7 if you want to be picky.
S80 was revised in 2006. So by the time 9-5 comes out, S80 will go through a big time MCE. Will that trump the 9-5? Time will tell.
It's disappointing that GM has treated Saab like ****. It's best GM sell them to BMW or a company far more competent.
S80 was revised in 2006. So by the time 9-5 comes out, S80 will go through a big time MCE. Will that trump the 9-5? Time will tell.
It's disappointing that GM has treated Saab like ****. It's best GM sell them to BMW or a company far more competent.
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Good, get the 9-5 out to market, then sell Saab to the highest bidder. Maybe Tata would buy them, they could slot them right below Jaguar. Or GM could sell them along with Hummer as a package deal like Ford did with Jaguar and Land Rover. GM really doesn't need either of them. It doesn't make much sense to have Saab, they already have that area covered with Buick and Cadillac. I remember back when they killed Oldsmobile, Saab sold less cars then they did!
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I hope it looks a lot like the Aero-X.
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I hope this change is a realization by GM that introducing a car 6 months to a year ahead of its dealer introduction is bad marketing. It leads to the perception that the
car is already old hat when it hits the dealer.
car is already old hat when it hits the dealer.
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should have been out in October.. this car is ridiculous. The MCE was pathetic.
In typical GM fashion...
"The Saab 9-5 is the automotive equivalent of an octogenarian. Most manufacturers debut a revised model every four years, sometimes three, sometimes five, but the 9-5 has been around for over eight years now and it shows"
GM needs to start heavily re-investing or just dump SAAB completely. There is no excuse for this type of product starvation when you had a FANTASTIC concept a few years back that the media and public loved.
In typical GM fashion...
"The Saab 9-5 is the automotive equivalent of an octogenarian. Most manufacturers debut a revised model every four years, sometimes three, sometimes five, but the 9-5 has been around for over eight years now and it shows"
GM needs to start heavily re-investing or just dump SAAB completely. There is no excuse for this type of product starvation when you had a FANTASTIC concept a few years back that the media and public loved.
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You are certainly correct - but the current Saab 9-5 isn't that bad...I'm shopping for one at the current moment.
There are a few 2007 units out there with $6000* factory incentives + Saab loyalty** and generous dealer discounts. You will find $10K off list is possible on a very well equipped vehicle.
Here is an example of one dealers stock. I was given a price of $ 29,915 on the last one...$13,000 off list (Note that it is a manual transmission).
Year Make Model MSRP Price Exterior
Extended Trim Body Style Transmission Color
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $37,340 Blue
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic
VIN: YS3ED49G373522205 078075 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $37,340 Silver
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic
VIN: YS3ED49G873522202 078074 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $38,085 Black
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic w/Visibility Pkg Gray
VIN: YS3ED49G173522168 078073 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $42,915 Fusion Blue
Aero Sedan 4 Dr. Manual
VIN: YS3EH45G673510947 078032 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
*Note: Rebate amounts based on NY zip code.
**Note: Details at www.SaabUSA.com
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Nope, it's time for GM to press Saab management to manage the company well or leave (and snip the golden parachutes for good measure). Cut and run is the typical GM S.O.P., and that's in part what got GM into all the trouble it's in presently. When the going gets tough, cut and run! Pretty pathetic motto, don't ya think?
How 'bout running a company like you want to win for once? How 'bout investing in product and holding marketing accountable for its misdeeds? Why is it becoming more prevalent in American society to cut and run whenever things get tough? I don't think that that's the foundation on which the US was built.
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wheres gm premium euro brand?
Anyone who compares the awful looking Oldsmobiles (except Aurora) with their grandma interiors, to todays Saabs is losing it.
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Sorry, the Intrigue and Alero were good-looking cars. Yes, better than Saabs.
Recently, I recall reading how GM is studying putting 4-cyl turbo engines into their upcoming midsize cars like the G8. I couldn't help but smile since I already have a GM midsize with a 4-cyl turbo: a 2006 Saab 9-5.
While this car has been for sale for longer than it should have, I'm still satisfied with this purchase for several reasons.
First, with all my discounts, I paid less than 25K for my 2006 Aero with automatic. Second, I get about 29 mpg when I go easy on the gas. Third, the seats are wonderfully comfortable and I love the ventilated seats during our AZ summers. Forth, I get 29 mpg when I want and 260 hp when I want. Sure the engine is a little rough and the torque is a little light at low rpm but in today's world, these are small sacrifices for the economy. Lastly, have you checked out the trunk in one of these things?
Looks are highly subjective and mean very little when considering the functionality of a vehicle. Its kind of like when the dealer asks what color you want as soon as you arrive at the lot. But yea, I thought it was pretty ugly before I bought one. It is unique in my neighborhood though.
Yea, its been around a long time, but this car works well on a number of fronts and deserves a little more respect than it gets.
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Tony Soprano could have a field day with the trunk of a 9-5!! Fold down the seats and you've got a good 6'+ pass through. In fact, I put an 8' Xmas Tree straight through the rear opening and into the passenger compartment... and closed the trunk. My car smelled like a tree until Valentines day, but I thought that was an amazing feat!!
I"m interested in seeing how this new 9-5 handles all these smart details. The 9-3 doesn't even have auto-dim mirrors... .or dual sun visors...
The 9-5 is a very respectable car; however, it's just been around without a significant update for far too long.
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