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Niiiiice. I hope the rest of GM is checking out this interior.
wtf is up with that gap between the hood and the front facia above the grills.
Every GTO I've seen has that.
It always makes me think the hood isn't completely shut.
Every GTO I've seen has that.
It always makes me think the hood isn't completely shut.
I noticed that too. My Alero has the same problem.
Also, you can check Pontiac's website for the rest of the pictures.
There's also a new 360 gallery (one) and the first GTO commerical.
There's also a new 360 gallery (one) and the first GTO commerical.
ever notice thoes 2 big gaps in 4th gen TA's right in the front of the hood? All T/A's and firebirds have them..... 
Same with my g/f's 03 Grand Am <_<Originally posted by sykboy@Dec 20 2003, 05:51 PM
I noticed that too. My Alero has the same problem.
That's obviously a styling thing, it doesn't look like someone forgot to close the hood properly.
ever notice thoes 2 big gaps in 4th gen TA's right in the front of the hood? All T/A's and firebirds have them.....
If you think otherwise, you probably should brush up on your general car knowledge.
On a another note, does anyone think maybe SLP will have a GTO Judge on display at NAIAS? Or maybe a Pontiac concept of the good GTO?
I for one don't want to see "The Judge" name used again. This car doesn't need the name. I would like to see them use some legendary numbers, either in cubes or hp or both. 389, 400 and 421 come to mind. I like the sound of GTO 389 or GTO 400. Someone could easily photo shop new logos using the current GTO. That's all I'd put on the car. This car needs to be stealth.
I do like this though. AP please don't sue me. :lol:
I do like this though. AP please don't sue me. :lol:
Even though I disagree about the Judge thing, I think the fact they are using Pontiac numbers is really cool.
I think it would be even better if by GTO389 or GTO400 they were talking cubic inches instead of horsepower though.
That way, Pontiac would be better separated from it's lesser Chevy cousins.
I think it would be even better if by GTO389 or GTO400 they were talking cubic inches instead of horsepower though.
That way, Pontiac would be better separated from it's lesser Chevy cousins.
Yeah thats gunna happen, hey lets design an entire new engine just for the GTO...Hey at that rate who cares about profits lets make everyone 20K Corvettes, and sell solstice's with V8's despite the 0 reasons to do it.
keep dreaming
keep dreaming
Who says they need to redesign the engine?
Do you honestly think it would so difficult to increase the cubic inches on an LS1?
Oh wait, I forgot who I am talking to.
Do you honestly think it would so difficult to increase the cubic inches on an LS1?
Oh wait, I forgot who I am talking to.
That car is so sweet. i havent seen one in person yet. I dont think the pics do it justice.
Well buddy, lets see, they would have to program the machines to bore larger, have different pistons made, have different rods made.have the computer calibrated, tune and test, not to mention R&D involved......its more then you think. And frankly GM is not going to just for some historic numbers they can use as a gimmick. Historic numbers are as retarded as retro styling.
apparently GM did. buh bye ls1, hello ls2.Originally posted by TAFreak@Dec 22 2003, 08:20 PM
Who says they need to redesign the engine?
apparently GM did. buh bye ls1, hello ls2. [/b][/quote]Originally posted by bigals87z28+Dec 23 2003, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigals87z28 @ Dec 23 2003, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TAFreak@Dec 22 2003, 08:20 PM
Who says they need to redesign the engine?
But not just for the GTO....
I like the Judge - a '70 was the first car to really catch my attention (I was 4!) - but it isn't a great example of what made the GTO great.
The Judge was initally a response to the popularity of Mopar's Road Runner and Super Bee - low-buck performance that sold well and caught a lot of media attention. It was supposed to be a stripped-down, lightweight car with a standard 350HO and optional Ram Air engines.
Somewhere along the way, the Judge became a fully-loaded car. Judges were quick, but you could spec out any GTO with the Ram Air IV engine and it would be equally as fast.
Pontiac's real performance term has always been Super Duty. The SD cars are legends among Pontiac enthusiasts, whether it be the early '60s Catalina with the SD421 or the mid-70's SD455 Trans Am, the "SD" means Pontiac performance.
Pontiac also used to emphasize the torque of their motors by using the Trophy name. An engine with 375 lbs/ft of torque would be the Trophy375. It's an interesting thing to focus on as torque is the thing that plant you into the seat and is a main selling point for cars like the GTO.
If there will be a performance GTO, I'd vote for reviving the Super Duty name. A SD400 GTO, anyone? With a Trophy 400 V8?
The Judge was initally a response to the popularity of Mopar's Road Runner and Super Bee - low-buck performance that sold well and caught a lot of media attention. It was supposed to be a stripped-down, lightweight car with a standard 350HO and optional Ram Air engines.
Somewhere along the way, the Judge became a fully-loaded car. Judges were quick, but you could spec out any GTO with the Ram Air IV engine and it would be equally as fast.
Pontiac's real performance term has always been Super Duty. The SD cars are legends among Pontiac enthusiasts, whether it be the early '60s Catalina with the SD421 or the mid-70's SD455 Trans Am, the "SD" means Pontiac performance.
Pontiac also used to emphasize the torque of their motors by using the Trophy name. An engine with 375 lbs/ft of torque would be the Trophy375. It's an interesting thing to focus on as torque is the thing that plant you into the seat and is a main selling point for cars like the GTO.
If there will be a performance GTO, I'd vote for reviving the Super Duty name. A SD400 GTO, anyone? With a Trophy 400 V8?
You should spend more time studying in school. Your reading comprehension sucks.apparently GM did. buh bye ls1, hello ls2.
SD421 = Coolest engine name ever.
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