[AGR]

So does 1,000 cycles potentially mean about 3 years of daily charges? I would like 10X that

If it has 1000 miles of range, you would only need to charge once every few weeks for everyday driving.

 

[big swede]

If it has 1000 miles of range, you would only need to charge once every few weeks for everyday driving.

I guess it depends on what a cycle is considered.

 

[1958carnut]

Good point! I would assume this point is just to emphasize that you can get 4x the power from the same sized battery. I'd presume that for regular consumers we'd get a battery 1/4th the size or something along those lines.

That's what I'd figure. At some point we hopefully will get this all worked out so that we get much more power(range) out of a heck of a lot smaller battery.

 

[1958carnut]

Why would you want to carry 1000 miles of range around 100% of the time. Other than extreme uses like trailering, 400 miles is more than enough for me. I’ll let everyone else lug all that extra weight around.

Just remember you still have to stop and pee...🤪.

 

[jpd80]

The other option is that the solid state battery can offer same range but with a quarter of the size and weight of the current battery tech. So when we’re talking about 130 Kwhr or 200 Kwhr batteries, that can be a huge saving in weight and resources….

 

[TruckMan]

That’s exactly what I’d expect. Smaller batteries with the same or slightly better range. 400 to 500 miles is perfect. Assuming that they get the towing range up to a decent number like 300 miles at max load.

 

[jpd80]

Whenever a significant towing requirement is introduced for ICE or BEV, range becomes about a third of normal light cruise range. Now ICE vehicles have the advantage of large enough fuel tanks and options to guarantee a decent range when towing. For BEV to succeed, it needs something like the mentioned 4x capacity of solid state to allow a battery half the size and weight but double the range.

Maybe the answer is well thought out battery size options that avoids disappointing BEV buyers who will be doing moderate amounts of towing.

 

[CJH]

Whenever a significant towing requirement is introduced for ICE or BEV, range becomes about a third of normal light cruise range. Now ICE vehicles have the advantage of large enough fuel tanks and options to guarantee a decent range when towing. For BEV to succeed, it needs something like the mentioned 4x capacity of solid state to allow a battery half the size and weight but double the range.

Maybe the answer is well thought out battery size options that avoids disappointing BEV buyers who will be doing moderate amounts of towing.

Most people aren't towing a 10klbs trailer over the Rocky Mountains, they are hauling their boat/camper/trailer to their cabin/campspot a few hours a few times a year, outside of commercial/business purposes. That being said, peopel buy PU/SUV's for that capability(amongst others), so they do need to figure that out to some extent moving forward.

 

[CaptainDan]

Most people aren't towing a 10klbs trailer over the Rocky Mountains, they are hauling their boat/camper/trailer to their cabin/campspot a few hours a few times a year, outside of commercial/business purposes. That being said, peopel buy PU/SUV's for that capability(amongst others), so they do need to figure that out to some extent moving forward.

Yes, your needs can vary. Perhaps a sectional battery, that you can remove a large portion of, when you are just commuting. Add the "travel pack" when you are travelling or hauling loads.

 

[CJH]

Yes, your needs can vary. Perhaps a sectional battery, that you can remove a large portion of, when you are just commuting. Add the "travel pack" when you are travelling or hauling loads.

Or Voltec, which RAM is supposedly considering.....

 

[AWHoden]

Or Voltec, which RAM is supposedly considering.....

Well, not Voltec, that's GM's thing....are they considering a PHEV version of their truck? All the RAM site shows is their REV Truck which is a BEV, not a PHEV.

 

[Lowboy]

Yes, your needs can vary. Perhaps a sectional battery, that you can remove a large portion of, when you are just commuting. Add the "travel pack" when you are travelling or hauling loads.

That would be useful in a pickup.
The tow pack could be sitting on a maintainer in the corner of the garage.

 

[CJH]

Well, not Voltec, that's GM's thing....are they considering a PHEV version of their truck? All the RAM site shows is their REV Truck which is a BEV, not a PHEV.

I know that, but being on a GM site....... Supposedly they are doing both, PHEV and BEV. Obiviously, it be there system, not GM's. But its all vaporware until it actually is in production and for sale.

 

[AWHoden]

I know that, but being on a GM site....... Supposedly they are doing both, PHEV and BEV. Obiviously, it be there system, not GM's. But its all vaporware until it actually is in production and for sale.

Oh i didn't mean to sound like I was correcting you, I was just asking if that's what RAM was going to do.

 

[gkr778]

Well, not Voltec, that's GM's thing....are they considering a PHEV version of their truck? All the RAM site shows is their REV Truck which is a BEV, not a PHEV.

A range extender option for Ram 1500 EV was confirmed by Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares back in January.

Ram 1500 EV Will Offer a Range Extender Gas Engine, CEO Confirms

 

[Neanderthal]

A range extender option for Ram 1500 EV was confirmed by Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares back in January.

Ram 1500 EV Will Offer a Range Extender Gas Engine, CEO Confirms

Now THAT is a crazy idea. Who'd of thunk? Little Honda generator in the bed?

 

[SP1966]

Why would you want to carry 1000 miles of range around 100% of the time. Other than extreme uses like trailering, 400 miles is more than enough for me. I’ll let everyone else lug all that extra weight around.

If you live in California you'd want to have that energy available to power your house during all the blackouts!

 

[big swede]

If you live in California you'd want to have that energy available to power your house during all the blackouts!

Sounds efficient

Ask South Africa how that is.

South Africa is in a power hurt locker

I had no idea things were so desperate, and that’s after knowing what miserable shape the country is in. Car crashes, opportunistic criminals, rotting food, decomposing bodies, bankrupt business...

hotair.com

 

[1958carnut]

A range extender option for Ram 1500 EV was confirmed by Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares back in January.

Ram 1500 EV Will Offer a Range Extender Gas Engine, CEO Confirms

Now THAT is a crazy idea. Who'd of thunk? Little Honda generator in the bed?

And what of its configuration and how much space it steals from the bed and perhaps maybe payload?

 

[Neanderthal]

And what of its configuration and how much space it steals from the bed and perhaps maybe payload?

Imbed it in the bed. Stick it in the frunk. Everything is a compromise of some sort, starting with lektrik. If you want extended range you deal with it. Be all you can be!