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New Alfa Romeo will be unveiled in June
Automotive News Europe
November 20, 2014

LOS ANGELES -- Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will debut a new Alfa Romeo model in June, brand chief Harald Wester said.

Wester declined to comment on what type of vehicle the company will introduce when it unveils the model at its Alfa Romeo museum in Italy. He was speaking on Wednesday at the auto show here.

Alfa will introduce eight new models by 2018 as part of Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne's plans to boost the brand's annual sales to 400,000 vehicles in 2018 from 74,000 last year.

Alfa has started development on three of the eight new models, sources told Automotive News Europe earlier this year.

The cars are:
• a midsize sedan to rival the BMW 5 series
• a midsize SUV that will take on models such as the Audi Q5
• a flagship large sedan.

The midsize sedan will be the first to go on sale, the sources said. It is a successor to the Europe-only 159. Originally due in 2014 badged as the Giulia, the new sedan most likely will get a different name.

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[CJH]

My neighbor had an Alfa Roadster growing up, so I always dug them. Kind of like the 4C, so looking forward to the new models and where they take the lineup/brand.

 

[sfbreh]

Love the 4C.

Don't get the lineup. Don't get the large sedan or lack of V8s. Don't get the large SUV or the size classes they're pitching.

 

[cad1cts]

I'm anxiously awaiting the new Alfa's. I'd love to be able to own one!

 

[KingElvis]

It'd be a better idea to go downmarket for volume with Maserati than try to push Alfa down everyone's throat. They are totally poised to pull a Porsche and offer more volume sellers like the Cayenne.

Reason for the big footprint is that it's a re-badged Dodge. Maybe why no Alfa V8 is because that will be 'Dodge Material.'

 

[Neanderthal]

I swear I drove by an Alfa dealership a couple of days ago.

 

[69gtsdart]

Love the 4C.

Don't get the lineup. Don't get the large sedan or lack of V8s. Don't get the large SUV or the size classes they're pitching.

Alfa Romeo is a lot like Mazda (in the early 90's), they are not focused on High Power/Large Displacement Motors. Leave the V8's to Maserati what Makes a Alfa:

Fun to Drive
Sporty attributes and Erotic (Yes Erotic) style
Inline 4 and Small displacement power
50/50 Weight distribution
Light Platform.

a Midsize BMW 5 Series competitor from Alfa would be the Midsize BMW WISHES they had...The SUV's would be just a Money maker.

 

[69gtsdart]

It'd be a better idea to go downmarket for volume with Maserati than try to push Alfa down everyone's throat. They are totally poised to pull a Porsche and offer more volume sellers like the Cayenne.

Reason for the big footprint is that it's a re-badged Dodge. Maybe why no Alfa V8 is because that will be 'Dodge Material.'

So you want a 1.7 Liter I4 Maserati 3 Series??? thats like Asking Rolls Royce to build a 3 series competitor.

AR is a BMW/BENZ Competitor. From RWD C Segments to RWD D Segments powered by inline 4's to Turbo V6's


Alfa isnt Famous for V8's, They are famous for high reving Raspy 4 Cylinders. why do people think AR needs a V8?

 

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Alfa are dropping the huge loss making FWD failures, in favour of low volume higher revenue RWD sports cars that produce a decent profit on the roof, seems like a sensible move to me.

Ooooh that nice new RWD Alfa Romeo Spyder (Mazda worlds No1 convertible maker), looks a winner, good to see Alfa Romeo get back to their roots, and do what the Italians do best sports cars.

 

[JBsZ06]

Surprised alfa is going BMW 5 size first. Would have thought 3 series competitor since that's where the volume is. I imagine the larger 5 series foundation already exists within the corporation in one degree or another....

Any guesses which platform it's sharing if any?

Ghilbi? Shortened a bit?

Hope Sergio's big gamble pays off.....I'm a huge alfisti dating back to 1963 when my dad would take me in his alfa convertible with no real heater in the winters...etc...

My dad's favorite line was....hold onto your hat!

Long since past away over a quarter of a century my dad s long love affair with alfa convertibles is still instilled with me. I hope to enjoy alfa s return to the usa with more than just the alfa 4c.....

Somewhat wishing the miata based alfa did in fact return this year. Not a huge dan of the little 1.4 turbo I am somewhat released eventually the alfa spider will return with either the 240 hp turbo 1750 or even better the turbo 2 liter...

For their time the 1750 and 2000 cc alfa fours with hemi heads were powerful 2 seat Italian sportscars putting out 118 to 132 hp.... From 107 or 120 cubic inches..

Their 5 speed manuals and legendary handling were well respected..

Hopeful this can be recreated for the every,an...as the 4c seems at its current launch price to be a bit overpriced compared to say corvettes and Porsches....

Alfa spiders and gtv s were about 25 to 30 percent less than corvettes back then...(base 1971 corvette before options 5500 dollars where as the Alfa spider of the same year was 4000 dollars) the launch edition of the little 4c is 68 grand and a base c7 corvette is 54 grand. The next year alfa 4c will start more appropriately at 54 grand but even still I believe it's really more of a 47 grand vehicle....at most....imo

Even in today's dollars a 20 percent disparity should exist...,,IMO...

Not equal in pricing between the two cars...IMO because then the corvette wins every contest of sportscar realm.....but with a price differential being discussed...the Alfa spider and gtv hold merit....

Just my rant...jmo

 

[69gtsdart]

Surprised alfa is going BMW 5 size first. Would have thought 3 series competitor since that's where the volume is. I imagine the larger 5 series foundation already exists within the corporation in one degree or another....

Any guesses which platform it's sharing if any?

Ghilbi? Shortened a bit?

Hope Sergio's big gamble pays off.....I'm a huge alfisti dating back to 1963 when my dad would take me in his alfa convertible with no real heater in the winters...etc...

My dad's favorite line was....hold onto your hat!

Long since past away over a quarter of a century my dad s long love affair with alfa convertibles is still instilled with me. I hope to enjoy alfa s return to the usa with more than just the alfa 4c.....

Somewhat wishing the miata based alfa did in fact return this year. Not a huge dan of the little 1.4 turbo I am somewhat released eventually the alfa spider will return with either the 240 hp turbo 1750 or even better the turbo 2 liter...

For their time the 1750 and 2000 cc alfa fours with hemi heads were powerful 2 seat Italian sportscars putting out 118 to 132 hp.... From 107 or 120 cubic inches..

Their 5 speed manuals and legendary handling were well respected..

Hopeful this can be recreated for the every,an...as the 4c seems at its current launch price to be a bit overpriced compared to say corvettes and Porsches....

Alfa spiders and gtv s were about 25 to 30 percent less than corvettes back then...(base 1971 corvette before options 5500 dollars where as the Alfa spider of the same year was 4000 dollars) the launch edition of the little 4c is 68 grand and a base c7 corvette is 54 grand. The next year alfa 4c will start more appropriately at 54 grand but even still I believe it's really more of a 47 grand vehicle....at most....imo

Even in today's dollars a 20 percent disparity should exist...,,IMO...

Not equal in pricing between the two cars...IMO because then the corvette wins every contest of sportscar realm.....but with a price differential being discussed...the Alfa spider and gtv hold merit....

Just my rant...jmo

The Giorgio Platform will underpin Most of D-E Segment Alfa's cars. the Platform will spin off to develope Other RWD cars in FCA to use as a Basis. Just as the (SUSW 500x/Renegade) & CUSW (Dart, 200, Cherokee) Platform Varies from Chrysler to Jeep, Dodge and Fiat.

Also The Mazda "Based" SPorts car for Alfa is dead, It turning into a Sports car for Fiat (Think Fiat 123), Its not "Pure" enough for Alfa Romeo. They are getting they own lil sports car.

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

Surprised alfa is going BMW 5 size first.

They need to rebuild their image first - then go after the volume sector.

 

[CJH]

Love the 4C.

Don't get the lineup. Don't get the large sedan or lack of V8s. Don't get the large SUV or the size classes they're pitching.

I don't get the SUV either, other than volume/profitability. Everybody has seen the truckloads of cash Porche makes with the Cayenne and is trying to get a piece of that pie. And when you have the new Maserati SUV platform sitting there already developed.............

It'd be a better idea to go downmarket for volume with Maserati than try to push Alfa down everyone's throat. They are totally poised to pull a Porsche and offer more volume sellers like the Cayenne.

I think they see Alfa as the BMW/Merc competitor and Maserati as the Porche level competitor, with Ferrari to handle the Ultra performance category. They don't want to dumb Maserati down, as it still has a fairly good reputation and exclusivity in the higher end of the volume luxury market. They'd squash Alfa if they went downward, plus why give up the margin/transaction prices that Maserati can currently obtain?

They are both going to offer something like the Cayenne, so volumes + profitability should increase for both, unless the market has hit its saturation point (which I don't think it has).

 

[JBsZ06]

Alfa needs it's vehicles to have greater hp and tq than what the 1.4 liter turbo offers and rumor is a sports car that can hold either the 1.7 and or two liter turbo is destined for the Alfa spider.

Personally I believe the three pronge launch of a spider a gtv coupe and a saloon in the realm of the z 3 series makes more sense....

The 5 series competitor has lower volume for sure.....although based off a ghilbi chassis offshoot I can see the ease of production.

I'm not a fan of the ghilbi although the front end is impressive on the road...the rest of the design leaves me cold...and the turbo lag is disappointing....

Jmo ..hopefully alfa will have better 5 series competitive product for less money? How is that going to work?

 

[KingElvis]

So you want a 1.7 Liter I4 Maserati 3 Series??? thats like Asking Rolls Royce to build a 3 series competitor.
AR is a BMW/BENZ Competitor. From RWD C Segments to RWD D Segments powered by inline 4's to Turbo V6's
Alfa isnt Famous for V8's, They are famous for high reving Raspy 4 Cylinders. why do people think AR needs a V8?

Wah? Where did I mention pint size fours or anything about an Alfa three series?

If Fiat wants to sell big ass cars and trucks with an Italian name - why not go with Maserati - a renown make - rather than Alpha which, as you say yourself, is known for making little 4 bangers?

Merc and Bim sell $100K cars. Maserati brand is the competition. You have a much easier time selling a quasi 7 series called Maserati than Alfa.

No one will need to be 'convinced' Maserati is desirable - hardly anyone in the US remembers Alfa, but they know Maserati is a big deal.

Seems Quixotic to attempt to push this middling Italian make down people's throats as an aspirational car. It's not.

 

[richmond2000]

Wah? Where did I mention pint size fours or anything about an Alfa three series?

If Fiat wants to sell big ass cars and trucks with an Italian name - why not go with Maserati - a renown make - rather than Alpha which, as you say yourself, is known for making little 4 bangers?

Merc and Bim sell $100K cars. Maserati brand is the competition. You have a much easier time selling a quasi 7 series called Maserati than Alfa.

No one will need to be 'convinced' Maserati is desirable - hardly anyone in the US remembers Alfa, but they know Maserati is a big deal.

Seems Quixotic to attempt to push this middling Italian make down people's throats as an aspirational car. It's not.

to ME Alfa should MAX out at a 5 series and go down to the CLA range and Maserati which NEVER sold "normal" cars takes care of the 5 series + market with Ferrari staying "pure" to its roots and Maserati building the "money" machines in the upper market

I thought the Miata was to be a FIAT 124 Spyder / Barchetta replacement as it would price similar to Mazda's version and NOT end up with the Z4 money for a Miata clone ISSUE

 

[69gtsdart]

Wah? Where did I mention pint size fours or anything about an Alfa three series?

If Fiat wants to sell big ass cars and trucks with an Italian name - why not go with Maserati - a renown make - rather than Alpha which, as you say yourself, is known for making little 4 bangers?

Merc and Bim sell $100K cars. Maserati brand is the competition. You have a much easier time selling a quasi 7 series called Maserati than Alfa.

No one will need to be 'convinced' Maserati is desirable - hardly anyone in the US remembers Alfa, but they know Maserati is a big deal.

Seems Quixotic to attempt to push this middling Italian make down people's throats as an aspirational car. It's not.

You basically said that when you said Maserati should go more down market instead of having AR take care of that... A Down Market Maserati WOULD be a RWD Compact Sedan with a tiny 190hp 4 Cylinder.

Would sounds more realistic??

*A Compact AR Sports Sedan with a 190hp 1750cc I4?

* Or a Compact Maserati Sedan with 190hp 1750cc I4?

 

[JBsZ06]

Personally I think a 1.7 turbo with 240 hp is as low as they should go....and even then a 2 liter with 300 or more hp is more appropriate to actually successfully compete ...

The mx5 Italian breathern if not an alfa should not be a fiat but rather bridge the gap as an Abarth spider..

Jmo

 

[69gtsdart]

Personally I think a 1.7 turbo with 240 hp is as low as they should go....and even then a 2 liter with 300 or more hp is more appropriate to actually successfully compete ...

The mx5 Italian breathern if not an alfa should not be a fiat but rather bridge the gap as an Abarth spider..

Jmo

Remember Alfa plans to sell more Low Tier Mercedes and BMW like cars. a standard 135-160hp I4, a 185-200hp Turbo 4 and a upper trim 1.7L with minimum 230hp would be enough for something like a 3 Series type Alfa, after all they plan to develop cars to be as Light as possible. the D-RWD (5 Series) Alfa would have a Entry level Turbo 4 with Optional 3.2L NA V6

 

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Everybody is gonna be eating into BMW market share LOL

Even Jaguar are attacking the 3 Series now