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Here's a quote from another forum site I visit........
A guy that works for my brother was going to montana a few weeks ago and bought a brand new 4 door 4x4 chevy truck. He was curious what kind of gas mileage he was going to get out there but he thought driving his brand new truck would be worth it. Him and his buddies left grand rapids, MI and drove to Minnesota. He thought his gas gauge was broke because it hardly moved so he filled up and it only took $9. He got to montana and never had to fill up again and still had gas. He was freaking out and thought something was wrong but kept going. After their week long trip they headed for home. They left Montana and never filled up until michigan. HE AVERAGED 87 MILES PER GALLON. He was blown away and nobody beleived him except his buddies that was with him. He called his dealer and said I hate to bitch but my truck is getting 85 miles a gallon and dealer told him good for you. 2 weeks later GM tracked him down and said they needed that truck back somehow it got mixed up with regular trucks and that was their 1 and only test truck. The guy said no way this thing gets 85 miles per gallon and GM told him that the price tag on that truck right now is $400,000 and wait until it broke and it would cost $90,000 to fix it. GM let him pick out any truck he wanted and gave his wife $10,000 towards a vehicle if she bought that day. So he gave it back and they said they are trying to get the cost down under $100,000 before they produce them. A long story short the manufacturers are working on trucks that get good fuel economy, although they may cost a bit at first.
Anyone here ever heard anything, or know anything about this? I'm curious as to what technology is being incorporated into this truck.

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New variation to the same ole story.....
 

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Same old story. BUT it does make one think why hasn't something better been invented? How long have people wanted better MPG out of their car? How long did it take for man to get to the moon? I remember people looking for sub $1.00 gas because $1.10 was high and I've only been driving for 10years.
 

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Same old story. BUT it does make one think why hasn't something better been invented? How long have people wanted better MPG out of their car? How long did it take for man to get to the moon? I remember people looking for sub $1.00 gas because $1.10 was high and I've only been driving for 10years.
How much was spent to take us to the moon? Greater fuel efficiency can be achieved, sure, but cost-effectively? A Prius saves about $650 a year in gas over a Corolla at a purchase-price premium of about $6,500. Toyota sold about three and half times as many Corollas as Priuses last month, and the Prius is the only high-volume car to incorporate spiffy gas-saving technology.

The federal government had bottomless pockets when they were rushing to beat the Soviets to the moon, but when it's the consumer paying for the development and other cost, it's not going to be as easy to get ideas off the drawing board.
 

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How much was spent to take us to the moon? Greater fuel efficiency can be achieved, sure, but cost-effectively? A Prius saves about $650 a year in gas over a Corolla at a purchase-price premium of about $6,500. Toyota sold about three and half times as many Corollas as Priuses last month, and the Prius is the only high-volume car to incorporate spiffy gas-saving technology.

The federal government had bottomless pockets when they were rushing to beat the Soviets to the moon, but when it's the consumer paying for the development and other cost, it's not going to be as easy to get ideas off the drawing board.
If the Government was truely serious about getting off of oil, that same money would be getting thrown at it, probably much, much less when compared to the space program. I guess they have their priorities.

How much do car manufacturers spend developing cars? Hundreds of Millions upon millions I'm sure. Your telling me NONE of their engineers experimented to get high mileage out of what they already have? Someone some where along the line had to have come up with something. It just seems fishy when I think about, maybe I'm just hopeing for a conspiracy, lol.
 

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I never understood these conspiracy theories...

if you made a vehicle that did everything Vehicle A did but at twice the fuel efficiency you'd sell millions. Big Oil isn't rich enough to pay someone to keep quiet about that...

Experimenting with higher milage? Sure all the time. It's a crucial part of the vehicle development process even (particularly now). Why do you think every automatic car has a lockup torque converter instead of a regular one. Why do all the manual cars have 5 or 6 speeds with overdrives instead of "three on the tree". Why does everyone use a sequential multi-point fuel injection, or even direct injection instead of a carburettor? Why do cars have so much use of plastics and aluminium and magnesium today?

In engineering there really isn't anything that you can just invent and will give you four times more for nothing... a few percent here, a few percent there yes. The "four times better MPG" we did that already circa 1890 when carburettors were invented and people stopped using "wick carburetion"



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I never understood these conspiracy theories...

if you made a vehicle that did everything Vehicle A did but at twice the fuel efficiency you'd sell millions. Big Oil isn't rich enough to pay someone to keep quiet about that...

Experimenting with higher milage? Sure all the time. It's a crucial part of the vehicle development process even (particularly now). Why do you think every automatic car has a lockup torque converter instead of a regular one. Why do all the manual cars have 5 or 6 speeds with overdrives instead of "three on the tree". Why does everyone use a sequential multi-point fuel injection, or even direct injection instead of a carburettor? Why do cars have so much use of plastics and aluminium and magnesium today?

In engineering there really isn't anything that you can just invent and will give you four times more for nothing... a few percent here, a few percent there yes. The "four times better MPG" we did that already circa 1890 when carburettors were invented and people stopped using "wick carburetion"
Most of what I said was said jokingly. I need to add disclaimers. But seriously, it doesn't take a great mind to add a gear to a 4 speed to make a 5 speed, that takes very little inventiveness ( probably not a word). Sure you need to figure out how to package it make it all work and change some programing to make it all play nicely together.

I thought everyone liked a good conspiracy.
 

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I declare shenanigans on that story. :rolleyes:
 

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I want to add in another very good reason why this would be false. A high milage truck like that would be under lock and key at a proving ground like in Milford or AZ. Trucks at the dealers are shipped from a plant. Kinda hard to mix those two up, expecially when you take into account how much VIN matching dealers usually do before they release a car. Not gonna happen, but I guess everyone can wish.
 

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Yeh, the "100MPG Carburetor" lives on for a new generation!

Usually this story involves a genius engineer that was bought out by GM and/or the oil companies and/or the barviaran illuminati.
 

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Here's a quote from another forum site I visit........


Anyone here ever heard anything, or know anything about this? I'm curious as to what technology is being incorporated into this truck.

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I heard something similar from one of my history teacher's friends with a Venture, he averaged 90MPG... He brought it back to the dealer wondering if there was anything wrong he was given another one.

(Teacher backed him up, he really got a new minivan within two weeks of his purchase - it's not a myth nor was he bs'ing me).


Those U-Bodies...
 

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I managed 99 mpg with my Reatta once according to the Electronic Control Center...




few a few seconds, while coasting, according to the instantaneous mpg readout
 

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I heard something similar from one of my history teacher's friends with a Venture, he averaged 90MPG... He brought it back to the dealer wondering if there was anything wrong he was given another one.

(Teacher backed him up, he really got a new minivan within two weeks of his purchase - it's not a myth nor was he bs'ing me).


Those U-Bodies...
Maybe instead he was averaging 90 L/100 km and was at the dealer, not so much wondering :lmao:

As for "escaped test vehicles", well indeed wouldn't a test vehicle actually have miles on the odometer? I don't think many people would want a new truck with 274 000 miles showing :drive:



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