[Titanic]

The sales charts have looked pretty much the same for the last few years: Ford F-series, Chevrolet Silverado, then Toyota Camry.

However, after a dismal month for pickup truck sales, the Civic, Corolla/Matrix, Camry, and Accord (in that order) leaped beyond both the Silverado and F-series to become America's best-selling vehicles for May 2008.

The F-series sales softened by 30.6% from May 2007, for a total of 42,973 units moved. The Silverado's sales were off by 42% year-over-year for a total sold of 37,020. In sharp contrast, Toyota was able to herd out an astonishing 52,826 Corollas/Matrixes and 51,291 Camrys during May (of which, 5,999 were hybrids). And taking the top prize was Honda's Civic, with total May sales of an unheard of 53,299 units. Slotting below the Camry for fourth place was the Accord, which racked up 43,728 buyers.


No doubt about it, the times have rapidly changed.

 

[91 s-10baja]

Re: Month of Reckoning: Camry now the Best Selling Vehicle in the USA

this was supposed to be a good day off, but i suppose it was expected.

 

[igor]

Re: Month of Reckoning: Camry now the Best Selling Vehicle in the USA

Actually it is COROLLA that is the best selling vehicle - it overtook the Camry, along with the F-series:

Corolla; 52k
Camry 51k
F-series 38k
http://pressroom.toyota.com/Releases/View?id=TYT2008060335766

actually - Toyota move over!!

Civic: 53k sales !! WOW
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/4528

Igor

 

[jkennedy293]

Re: Month of Reckoning: Civic, Corolla and Camry pass F-series and Silverado in sales

It was bound to happen sooner or later.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Re: Month of Reckoning: Civic, Corolla and Camry pass F-series and Silverado in sales

Right beneath this discussion is another titled, "Toyota's May 2009 Sales: Down 7.9%". I haven't been in there yet, but I'm sure I'll see a bunch of hillbilly "wull look at dat!" moronic nonsense.. But once you read this discussion, it's like - "who cares?". Sure, Toyota's sales are down 7.9%, but look at what they're doing....

It's the big picture that matters...

 

[Titanic]

Re: Month of Reckoning: Civic, Corolla, Camry & Accord outsell F-series and Silverado

Interestingly, adjusting for selling days, the Camry was down by 1.5%. But still, this was a seismic shift.

 

[mkaresh]

AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May

Richard Truett
Automotive News
June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET


The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite vehicle for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.

According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold 52,826 Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.

The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.

Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications, said the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."

"But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just a sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."

Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5 percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year ago. Camry sales have been flat.

Full article (sub reqd?): http://www.autonews.com/article/20080603/ANA05/959951360/1078/emailblast01&refsect=emailblast01

 

[mkaresh]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Elsewhere I've seen people post that the Accord and Civic also outsold the F-Series.

TrueDelta's members report when they trade one car for another. A few months ago I started noticing that many people were trading trucks and luxury cars for compact and midsize mainstream cars. The trend started before the recent gas spike, but has really picked up more recently.

 

[igor]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

yes, acually the new bestseller is the Civic

Civic: 53k
Corolla: 52k
Camry:51k
Accord 43l
F-150: 42k

(rounded down for all of them)

Igor

 

[tgagneguam]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Hell just froze over.

 

[civilzues]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

yes, acually the new bestseller is the Civic

Civic: 53k
Corolla: 52k
Camry:51k
Accord 43l
F-150: 42k

(rounded down for all of them)

Igor

what is the percentage of fleet sales for each of these cars? Where can we find that info? because wasn't it last month the Corolla was doing bad?

 

[Titanic]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

I posted about it here:

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/...amry-accord-outsell-f-series-silverado-65034/

Of course, the Corolla is combined with the Matrix, which makes as much sense as the Cobalt being mixed in with the HHR.

 

[Aprime]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Hell just froze over.

Because Americans stopped buying cars they don't need?

lolwut

 

[member12]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

So why can't GM sell more Malibus? It seems like that market is booming right now. The Camry, Accord, Malibu, and Altima have never been more appealing in design and with gas prices the way they are.

They need to invest in some inventory and some good marketing practices.

 

[igor]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

what is the percentage of fleet sales for each of these cars? Where can we find that info? because wasn't it last month the Corolla was doing bad?

unknown for Toyota, but 0% for Honda- Honda does not sell to fleets.

Actually Ford said that in Retail, Focus outsold F-series, as well.

Igor

 

[Aprime]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

So why can't GM sell more Malibus?

Because people are uncertain (reliability, resale) about it, because it doesn't come with that 7th airbag, because fit varies from 'Bu to 'Bu (the Orion ones tend to have a their front bumpers misalligned for whatever reason, causing it to extrude more from a side than the other), because it only comes with a 4-speed, because it doesn't have an available manual (as small the percentage of midsize buyers who get manuals is, dismissing them is stupid, because they simply go to Toyota or Honda to get their manual fix), because the V6 isn't as powerful as Honda's or Toyota's, because GM didn't have the one they wanted in stock, because it doesn't have 'standardized nav', because it's smaller than the Honda, because it's American and hurr GM is pollute, because it's front-wheel drive, because they didn't do torque steer like Honda (to paraphrase MSN Autos), because the lighting is ew ew ew (again, MSN Autos), because I'm cool and can ignore the car you can't ignore, because...

unknown for Toyota, but 0% for Honda- Honda does not sell to fleets.

Actually Ford said that in Retail, Focus outsold F-series, as well.

Igor

Aren't they cutting back production for the new model anyway?

And I doubt in total they surpassed the GMT900 pickups (yeah, they surpassed the Silverado alone, but in total? Nah).

 

[AMERICA 123]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Modified



Civic:............. 53,299
Corolla/Matrix:.. 52826
Camry/Solara:...51,291
Accord........... 43,728
F-150:........... 42,973



Igor

Yes and we're not done with all the numbers.

This article - [ late Edit] SHOULD READ - The AN article excluding the Civic and Accord - shows you just how bad AN wants to a Toyota subsiduary.

You can can always spot the inner circle of Toyotas misinformation network/spin machine by how they handle news between Toyota and Honda.

Basically, they pimp Honda for Toyotas gain - like AN JUST DID HERE.

Classic.

It actually qualifies as bad reporting.

[Late edit] ADDED - Igor's quoted post above illustrates what AN should've written.

 

[mkaresh]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

Actually, I believe the reason is that Honda hadn't released their figures yet when this article was written.

They didn't say the Toyotas were the top sellers, only that they'd beat the F-150.

Should they have waited until Honda released their figures? Perhaps.

What even I have a problem with, though, is that this same author recently spent 2/3 of a page blasting Ford for long-term reliability based on experience with a single car, his personal 2005 Mustang. He compared the Mustang to the PT Cruiser and MINI he owned before it--neither of which he owned long enough to know about long-term reliability.

So he seems prone to jumping the gun.

 

[mkaresh]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

I posted about it here:

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/...amry-accord-outsell-f-series-silverado-65034/

Of course, the Corolla is combined with the Matrix, which makes as much sense as the Cobalt being mixed in with the HHR.

Looks like you beat AN to the punch.

Technically the Matrix is the "Corolla Matrix." But weak this is. They do the same with the Camry and Solara.

 

[Aprime]

Re: AN: Ford F-Series outsold by both Corolla and Camry

It would be funny if they added the Vibe to the mix.