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I just returned from a local Lincoln Mercury dealer and my first look at a Lincoln MKS.

The photos do not relay the size of the car. It is not a long vehicle, but it is tall. The belt line at the rear door almost hit me in my sternum as I opened it.

I have made my opinions of the design of the car well known, and I don't think I need to say anything more than this: Seeing it in the flesh has not changed my mind. I don't like it. Others will. But as I wrote before it has height. And becasue of this, it has a kind of "girth" that does not transmit in photographs. The example I saw was very nicley finished. All black.

The interior is quite nice. I feel the Instrument panel is a little over-done but not a bad design. The seats were comfortable both front and back. But I also felt they were over designed on their surfaces. Lots of panels and straps, that sort of thing. The door panels looked under-done by comparison, though all materials were very good. All, that is, except the black, glittery plastic panel that runs from just below the climate controls and down the length of the console. The "LINCOLN" block letters seemed forced and artificial. Reworking this area would be an easy fix and I hope they do so.

Because it is a tall machine, getting in and out was wonderfully easy, something shared with its platform mates the Tauruses and Sable.

I did not have time to drive one.

One thing I did also notice was the window sticker. It showed a total of $51,000, INCLUDING a $4,995.00 "Market Adjustment" added by the dealer. I don't think that's such a good idea.
 

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We were all over this car at the NAIAS. You are right. On the road, it looks totally different. Not as wide from the rear, shorter and taller. Saw a black one in Fenton this afternoon. Thought to myself that the rear kind of looked like the last Aurora.
I'll be in one, on the road, by Weds.
 

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We were all over this car at the NAIAS. You are right. On the road, it looks totally different. Not as wide from the rear, shorter and taller. Saw a black one in Fenton this afternoon. Thought to myself that the rear kind of looked like the last Aurora.
I'll be in one, on the road, by Weds.
You bought one?
 

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They're alright, nothing special to write home about. my grandma's boyfriend is buying one when his town car lease is up. I tried to get him in a DTS/STS...:( No luck

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They made a decent car out of nothing. No major investment into a new platform, engines, transmission.... It would be nice if Lincoln had a designated RWD platform, like Cadillac, but money is tight right now.
 

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I tool a close look at one recently myself and it was pretty loaded with the bigger wheels and al, although the sticker price was around $45K. I think that is a really good idea.

And I hardly thought the intstrument panel was "over-done" by any means.
Here is an example of that for me that is a bit excessive.



Oh, and I did not mind the big Lincoln letters. It presented a bold confidence that I liked.
 

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...if anything, this is far more conventional from Lincoln and far less "over-done."

I tool a close look at one recently myself and it was pretty loaded with the bigger wheels and al, although the sticker price was around $45K. I think that is a really good idea.

And I hardly thought the intstrument panel was "over-done" by any means.
Here is an example of that for me that is a bit excessive.



Oh, and I did not mind the big Lincoln letters. It presented a bold confidence that I liked.
to each his own, I would be happier in the CTS, but the Lincoln would be a nice price to be too
 

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I tool a close look at one recently myself and it was pretty loaded with the bigger wheels and al, although the sticker price was around $45K. I think that is a really good idea.
That was the sticker on the one I saw. But as I wrote, the dealer added $5K extra.

And I hardly thought the intstrument panel was "over-done" by any means.
Here is an example of that for me that is a bit excessive.
I agree with your observation vis-a-vis the CTS center stack. I was not attempting a comparison with any other car or implying superiority of Cadillac. Just that I thought the IP was a bit busy.
 

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I tool a close look at one recently myself and it was pretty loaded with the bigger wheels and al, although the sticker price was around $45K. I think that is a really good idea.

And I hardly thought the intstrument panel was "over-done" by any means.
Here is an example of that for me that is a bit excessive.



Oh, and I did not mind the big Lincoln letters. It presented a bold confidence that I liked.
...if anything, this is far more conventional from Lincoln and far less "over-done."

While they may both contain similar elements and materials, the graceful elegance of the CTSs flowing, sophisticated lines and its deftly integrated controls contain much more art & soul than the MKSs chunky design with its gawdy IP and the huge expanse of cheap black plastic running down the center console. I believe the CTS cost less too.
 

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^^^ That center console with the black plastic looks very similar to the one in the much maligned LaCrosse.

I can see the reviewers saying something like "The wide black plastic looks cheap and the small buttons will undoubtedly confuse the ancient demographic that is bound to end up in this land yacht."

Overall I like the MKS and when they install the Ecoboost engine, it will be on my consideration list to replace my LaCrosse.
 

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They're alright, nothing special to write home about. my grandma's boyfriend is buying one when his town car lease is up. I tried to get him in a DTS/STS...:( No luck

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Your grandmother's gentleman caller (I think after a certain age "boyfriend" is inappropriate) seems to be an intelligent person. The DTS is an archaic land yatch that only has a responsive V8 going for it. Have you driven one lately?

And while I'd pick an STS over an MKS 10 times out of 10, the Cadillac is much smaller than the Lincoln and, compounding the spatial issue, the RWD hump consumes valueable foot space in an already cramped rear.
 

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^^^ That center console with the black plastic looks very similar to the one in the much maligned LaCrosse.

I can see the reviewers saying something like "The wide black plastic looks cheap and the small buttons will undoubtedly confuse the ancient demographic that is bound to end up in this land yacht."

Overall I like the MKS and when they install the Ecoboost engine, it will be on my consideration list to replace my LaCrosse.

I guess, but how is the wide BRIGHT silver plastic of the CTS any less annoying?
 

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While they may both contain similar elements and materials, the graceful elegance of the CTSs flowing, sophisticated lines and its deftly integrated controls contain much more art & soul than the MKSs chunky design with its gawdy IP and the huge expanse of cheap black plastic running down the center console. I believe the CTS cost less too.
So the CTS is far more
"graceful"
"sophisticated"
"deftly integrated"
"art & soul"



and the MKS is
"chunky"
"gawdy"
"cheap"


LOL, certainly no fanboyism there.
 

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I tool a close look at one recently myself and it was pretty loaded with the bigger wheels and al, although the sticker price was around $45K. I think that is a really good idea.

And I hardly thought the intstrument panel was "over-done" by any means.
Here is an example of that for me that is a bit excessive.



Oh, and I did not mind the big Lincoln letters. It presented a bold confidence that I liked.
Ha. Yeah. Tell me which center stack is more in line with the European/Japanese competition.

I'll give you a hit: most of the serious competitors do not use a sea of black plastic and corporate switchgear in their $40K luxury sedan.;)
 

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I just looked up a local dealer and they have three MKS's. Oddly enough, none of them have markups. They list the MSRP, then list the "Sale Price," which is invoice.
 
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