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Midsize Luxury Sedan Small Overlap Test: Surprising Results
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October 3, 2014
By: Justin King


Large luxury cars naturally convey a perception of safety, but the BMW 5-Series and Lincoln MKS did not perform up to expectations in a recent series of Insurance Institute for Highway Safety crash tests.

Seven popular models from the segment were put through the challenging small-overlap test, which replicates a 40 mph head-on collision with a utility pole on the front edge of the vehicle.

The BMW 5-Series received a 'marginal' rating, with as much as 12 inches of intrusion into the cabin.

"However, there was considerably less intrusion in the upper interior," IIHS said in a statement. "The dummy's movement was well controlled, with both the front and side airbags doing their jobs. Injury measures indicated that left leg injuries would be likely."

The MKS was the worst performer in the group, resulting in a 'poor' rating. The structure also pushed in approximately 12 inches into the driver space, while the dummy's head brushed by the front airbag and slammed into the instrument panel.

Not coincidentally, the 5-Series design dates back to 2011 and the MKS hails from 2009. The small-overlap test was just introduced in 2012, inspiring many automakers to optimize the structures of new cars for such impacts.

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Notably, the Audi A6, Cadillac CTS and Lexus GS were on the test schedule but their respective automakers promised imminent design revisions specifically optimized for the small-overlap test.
Hmmm...
 

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I love looking at crash tests Insurance Institute for Highway Safety Euro v NCAP Testing.

Ford's Ranger pick-up comes out as toughest crash vehicle they have tested in Europe, the safest vehicle tested under Euro NCAP testing that money could by. Crash safety is very important to me, a car can be easily replaced but a family member is very precious can't, if a family member walks away from a crash thats priceless, the Ford Ranger pick-up would be worth more than all the money in the world its priceless worth more than a crap expensive BMW or Lincoln, you are a long time dead.

A high sitting larger mass like a Ford Ranger will always come of better in a low sitting Mazda MX-5 it's not rocket science. A BMW 5 Series and Lincoln MKS will also come of much better in an accident with a Mazda MX-5 or a small super mini class car, but BMW or Lincoln hit a similar class of car which is better rated it might be a problem, but you can't chose which cars you are gonna hit so just drive stay safe kill the speed.

EURO NCAP Crash Testers states..
COMPARABLE CARS
Euro NCAP’s frontal impact test simulates a car crashing into another of similar mass and structure. In real life, when two cars collide the vehicle with the higher mass has an advantage over the lighter one. Generally speaking, vehicles with higher structures tend to fare better in accidents than those with lower structures. Therefore, ratings are comparable only between cars of similar mass and with broadly similar structures. Euro NCAP groups cars into the following structural categories: passenger car, MPV, off-roader, roadster and pickup. Within each of those categories, cars which are within 150kg of one another are considered comparable.
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Ford Ranger really is built tough, NCAP 5 stars rated 97%, worth it's weight in gold, more than gold in a crash.
 

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Holy crap, that MKS got hammered. So what's next, airbags that come out from the front pillar only during an offset crash? It seems most dummies' heads went in between the two airbags to hit in the vicinity of the front pillar.
 

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MkS cras looks nasty.
Well, that car qualifies as nasty even if isn't subjected to a crash. MKS doesn't have any compelling attributes other than a very spacious trunk..
 
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Well, that car qualifies as nasty even if isn't subjected to a crash. MKS doesn't have any compelling attributes other than a very spacious trunk..
This is what happens when you make a sedan out of a utility platform with a common floor pan.
D3 was primarily used by Ford to eliminate BOF Panther and BOF Explorer and save Ford a bunch
by closing those plants. I sense that the incidental sales of MKS and MKT and profit take second
place to those savings. I hope Ford moves on soon and builds better vehicles for Lincoln.
 

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Wow. A car fails a crash test that didn't even exist when it was designed. I'm stunned.

I don't understand why the IIHS excluded the A6, CTS, and GS from the test considering they are currently being offered for sale to consumers without these "imminent design revisions".

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Wow, a car whose design work started a decade in front of a new and tougher crash test gets an acceptable on that new crash test ...... while other newer product from Luxury / Premium brands - fail.


See, this is one of the many reasons when in doubt, you go with the Mopar or the GM, and not the Ford or Toyota -

ARLINGTON, Va. — The redesigned 2015 Chrysler 200, a midsize moderately priced car, earns the top rating of good in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's small overlap front crash test, a step up from the previous generation's rating of acceptable. With good ratings in all five of the Institute's crashworthiness evaluations, plus an available front crash prevention system that earns a superior rating, the 200 qualifies for the IIHS Top Safety Pick+ award.


Imagine that. A terribly constrained - cheap ass plus plus 2006 intro ed Chrysler Sebring / 200 - the laughing stock of the industry....... out did a much newer Lincoln MKS ..... and BMW 5 Series.


Then again, if you have owned all three Marques and been payin' attention - not really a surprise at all.
 

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Then again.....

Wow, a car whose design work started a decade in front of a new and tougher crash test gets an acceptable on a crash test ...... while other newer product from Luxury / Premium brands - fail.


See, this is one of the many reasons when in doubt, you go with the Mopar or the GM, and not the Ford or Toyota -

ARLINGTON, Va. — The redesigned 2015 Chrysler 200, a midsize moderately priced car, earns the top rating of good in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's small overlap front crash test, a step up from the previous generation's rating of acceptable. With good ratings in all five of the Institute's crashworthiness evaluations, plus an available front crash prevention system that earns a superior rating, the 200 qualifies for the IIHS Top Safety Pick+ award.


Imagine that. A terribly constrained - cheap ass plus plus 2006 intro ed Chrysler Sebring / 200 - the laughing stock of the industry....... out did a much newer Lincoln MKS ..... and BMW 5 Series.


Then again, if you have owned all three Marques and been payin' attention - not really a surprise at all.
RWD cars like the 5 series have longitudinally mounted engines which makes these tests even more difficult.
 
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