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Maybach: hit or flop ?

Maybach is going back to the drawing board to fix sluggish sales. The true sales figures for the Maybach brand have over the past 18 months become one of the best-kept corporate secrets at DaimlerChrysler. On the internet, there are currently 60 new and used cars being advertised across Europe - among them a barely run-in ’06 model with 5000 miles on the clock offered at a 55 percent discount.

According to trade estimates, last year’s production totalled a rather pathetic 280 units. Had the Maybach adventure not been quietly absorbed by the overall balance sheet of the Mercedes Car Group when the marque was launched, annual losses would by now be little short of frightening. But as things stand, chairman Dieter Zetsche can safely maintain that ‘every Maybach sold is earning money.’

At this disappointing level, however, it seems almost impossible to justify any further investments. ‘I disagree,’ says Dr Z. ‘On the contrary: I would like to confirm that there will be a new Maybach.’ So, as you read this, engineers are plotting a new raft of Maybach models.

So what’s Maybach going to do next ?

With the 57/62 pegged at only 175 units per year by 2010, Maybach is light years behind Rolls-Royce (3000 cars by then) and Bentley (10,000 cars in three years’ time). Despite this dramatic lack of demand, DC’s hardcore brand specialists will do what they can to nurse the fickle flame.

One senior Maybach official told CAR Online: ‘The Excelero show car did more for us than all the tweaks to the 57/62 series combined. It’s an open secret that the four-door Ocean Drive convertible started life as a Maybach, but then we got cold feet and turned it into a Merc. In the not too distant past, we presented to our management a couple of promising concepts, among them a pillarless four-seater luxury coupe with rear suicide doors. But at the moment, most of our work is unfortunately undercover - you just can’t fire thousands at Chrysler and at the same time spend millions on a new Maybach.’

And he confirmed that the look of the Maybach is one of its biggest problems. ‘Although it took a while to sink in, everyone involved knows now that it’s not the brand which is at fault. It’s the current product in general and the design in particular.’

Will there be further versions of the current cars ?

Before the 57/62 bites the dust, it will almost certainly spawn an even more expensive and luxurious landaulet version. This bespoke model was originally developed for a rich Swiss hotelier who backed out at the eleventh hour, leaving behind plenty of unpaid bills and an almost finished vehicle. Rather than only building a handful of cars, DC is now looking at a batch of 25 to 50 units that would be made to special order between 2008 and 2011. Featuring a power-operated rear fabric top, this crowd-stopper is said to combine the open-air feel of a convertible with the generous packaging of a limo.



Another sleeper which may be resurrected by mid-year is a Maybach editon of the GL luxury SUV (above). Limited to no more than 1500 cars in total, this vehicle would only be sold in the US, Asia and the Middle East. The conversion boasts a Maybach grille, a revised rear end with new lights and tailgate, more brightwork, special bumpers, wider wheels and its own choice of colour and trim. Inside, there are singing-and-dancing first-class rear sleeper seats like in the 57/62, plus top-grade leather, more precious wood and all the ICE novelties you could think of. Put together in Vance, Tuscaloosa, alongside the M- and R-class, the Maybach GL is deemed to be the brand’s first real money-maker - cheap to build, expensive to buy.

What about normal saloons ?

With Rolls-Royce preparing its New Generation Sedan and with the Bentley Continental series going from strength to strength, almost everyone within Mercedes agrees that there is nothing Maybach needs more badly than a striking mid-size model priced in the $225 to $275K bracket.

But it is equally clear that the last thing the brand needs is a me-too car. ‘Soon, we’ll have two new sedans competing in this small segment,’ acknowledges our friend from product planning. ‘In addition, Bentley is already offering a drop-top and a traditional coupe, so we don’t want to clash with these derivatives either. At the same time, Mercedes is moving further upscale with premium products like the S65 AMG and the proposed four-seater CL cabriolet. Considering these implications, Maybach’s best bet is a stylish and powerful four-door, four-seater coupé - kind of a bigger CLS for the very rich.’



A Maybach CLS-alike? Whatever next ?

All future Maybachs will be powered exclusively by a specially tuned, ultra-torquey and prestigeous 12-cylinder engine, and project C241 is for packaging and cost reasons based on the long-wheelbase S-class. The exterior and interior design are new - and the sleek bodystyle in particular is said to be much more convincing than the brand´s first effort.

The new Maybach will usher in a remarkable new lighting concept which can switch between ornamental and aggressive, and which introduces a soft-glow light film to accentuate certain body contours. Other goodies are a variable-tint sky-roof, a new active seat concept and a multi-mode instrument panel which prioritises its display according to the actual driving conditions.

And this CLS-style luxury saloon will offer stonking performance, to boot. The engineers favour the latest direct-injection 5.5-litre V12, codenamed M275 and producing up to 600bhp and 740lb ft of torque.
 

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Are the effing MAD??? A MAYBACH GL??????????

BUILD THE EXCELERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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They're not mad. The "Maybach" GL will definitely sell well in Asian and the Middle East (just like VW and the Phaeton do well in those regions)

I personally LOVE the Maybach and would buy one over a RR or a Bentley. I love the sleeper design and just love the other details about the car. Simon Cowell from American Idol recently purchased a new Maybach.

Check out this video for an insight into the Maybach ordering experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSdJFrH3Q9A
 

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They're not mad. The "Maybach" GL will definitely sell well in Asian and the Middle East (just like VW and the Phaeton do well in those regions)

I personally LOVE the Maybach and would buy one over a RR or a Bentley. I love the sleeper design and just love the other details about the car. Simon Cowell from American Idol recently purchased a new Maybach.

Check out this video for an insight into the Maybach ordering experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSdJFrH3Q9A
I love Maybach. It was one of the most pleasing cars I've evern driven. Though, 5mph for 2 blocks (MGM to Bellagio) on the Las Vegas Strip, really doesn't count as a "drive."
Maybachs look far more impressive in person than they do in pictures.

The Maybach GL is an idea I hate. But then again, Bentley has been rumored to be creating a version using the Touareg/Cayenne/Q7 platform. It's just another case of VW platform over-utilization, if you ask me. I'm not too fond of that idea as well.

Could I warm to a Maybach Bentley crossover/SUV? Sure. But it will take time.

VW doesn't do so hot with Phaeton in Asia, but it's a definitely improvement over US and Euro sales. Phaeton has never reached expectations in any market it sells in.
 

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Make a cheaper Maybach model!!!! Let people enter the brand then move up. They need a new "value priced" $100k-150 model.

Think Lamborghini Murcielago vs. Gallardo.
 

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They should 1st try to make them look more exclusive and less ugly. I've seen couple in person they look hideous, an uglified oversized and overpriced S-Class.
 

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Is it just me or does the Maybach suv sound like a rebadge?
REBADGE and a HALF!!!

"what can we do to boost sales?"

"Lets stick a Maybach badge on that new GL that all the magazines like so much and tack on about $100k to the price"

"OK"
 

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I absolutly love Maybach. But now that they brought the design language to Mercedes, they need to move on and establish something new. If I was rolling in the money and I had the choice between a Maybach and a Bently or RR. It would be a Maybach.
 

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guitarlix said:
I love the sleeper design
That's putting it kindly.

guitarlix said:
Simon Cowell from American Idol recently purchased a new Maybach.
...reason enough to buy something else.


Maybach is not a success. Of course the Germans report an operating profit, but it will be decades before the billions invested in its development and factory costs are recouped. Sales world wide are well below forecasts.

That, and very tellingly, a concept 4 door luxury convertible was debuted at Detroit in January. Called Ocean Drive, it was badged Mercedes Benz, and NOT Maybach. This was very interesting to me.
 

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After I got through that 'other thread' on Cadillac and it's V12 product, I love how people want refined product and expect the best on this one, reguardless of where the engine is designed. I like the idea of a larger CLS type Maybach product, I don't like the new CL coupe at all, but a CLS type product would be awesome!

CobaltSScrazy
 

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Is that spy shot of the next generation Maybach, or just an update?
Maybach is a pride thing; DCX wants a flagship to compete with BMW's Rolls Royce. Now GM will have one with the new ultra Caddy. :cool:
The Maybach GL is a really stupid idea..it sounds like all they plan to do is rebadge it with a different grille and some interior mods? They must be out of their minds! That's so stupid..
 

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Ugh - I hate the Maybach. The epitome of tasteless senseless too-much-money-and-little-taste luxury.

A top-spec Audi A8 would be far nicer, or even just a Phantom.
 

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I absolutly love Maybach. But now that they brought the design language to Mercedes, they need to move on and establish something new. If I was rolling in the money and I had the choice between a Maybach and a Bently or RR. It would be a Maybach.
You are in the minority, I'd take a Rolls Royce Phantom over anything else even the Bentley Flying Spur.
 

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-This SUV idea sounds horrifying. I wonder if BMW will jump on this with a limited production Rolls-Royce version of the X5...they better don't even think about that.

-Mercedes should give the Ocean Drive Concept to Maybach, so they could have a rival for the Rolls-Royce Drophead Coupé.

-Kill the ludicrous 62S Limousine along with the "standard" 62 Limo thing.

Hire Bruno Sacco back to design the new Maybach 57. Bruno Sacco was responsible for the Mercedes 600 W100




-And then tell Bruno to make a Landaulet version of the 57 inspired on the 600 Landaulet.



-Put the Exelero intro production. Except the production version should produce at least 1000 Bhp and 250 Mph to compete with the Bugatti Veyron.

And change the name to MERCEDES-MAYBACH.

It would also fit nicely with:

-1. Mercedes-Benz

-2. Mercedes-Maybach

-3. Mercedes-McLaren

Oh and I almost forgot. Drop the "Sporty" 57S version.

Who in their right mind would physically want a 5.70 metres long, 2.00 metres wide sport-saloon that weighs 2.700 Kilograms?
 

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Oh and I almost forgot. Drop the "Sporty" 57S version.

Who in their right mind would physically want a 5.70 metres long, 2.00 metres wide sport-saloon that weighs 2.700 Kilograms?
I disagree with you, I'd love to have a fast land yacht. Remember the bigger the better.

The only thing I don't like about Maybach is their exterior design, btw the old Mercedes you've put is ugly. Old Mercedes' were never a fashion statement.
 

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I disagree with you, I'd love to have a fast land yacht. Remember the bigger the better.
You clearly have no taste in cars. :lame:

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The only thing I don't like about Maybach is their exterior design, btw the old Mercedes you've put is ugly. Old Mercedes' were never a fashion statement.
:stupid:

Now you've just made yourself look like a ****************ing twat.
 

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The only thing I don't like about Maybach is their exterior design, btw the old Mercedes you've put is ugly. Old Mercedes' were never a fashion statement.

WHAT???????

They were the definition of luxury, reliabilty and cutting edge German design. Others tried to copy their unique designs and engineering acheivement. One car company not only copied them but surpased them in the late 1990's. If you can tell me who this was, you might redeem one point.
 

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Ugh - I hate the Maybach. The epitome of tasteless senseless too-much-money-and-little-taste luxury.

A top-spec Audi A8 would be far nicer, or even just a Phantom.

Who needs a lowly A8 when you can have an S8?????? I had an 02 S8 for a while and it was one of the best cars I've ever driven. You would think you were driving a 2 door coupe, but there was loads of rooms to store people and things behind you. I can't even imagine how the all-new S8 is on the road. It must be fantastic. I've seen one drive by and it looked outstanding. Only problem with those cars is the reliabilty. That is why I got rid of it. It was in the shop all the time. Each repair cost far too much.
 
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