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Next week was supposed to be a key reunion and showcase for the auto and tech industries, with some of the biggest companies gathering for CES in Las Vegas to network, share strategies and remember what life was like before the pandemic.

Instead, most of them will be attending the event remotely -- if at all. The annual tech showcase will soldier on in-person, but with just a diehard contingent traveling to Vegas.

Automakers, suppliers and tech giants continue to pull out or will limit participation in CES 2022 as COVID-19 cases surge and set records nationwide.

Many of the show’s presentations will now take place online.

General Motors, Waymo and other companies earlier canceled CES plans over COVID-19-related concerns.

GM CEO Mary Barra had been scheduled to give a keynote speech at the annual conference on Jan. 5, during which the company would have shown an electric Silverado pickup for the first time. Barra will still make the speech and presentation over the internet, a spokesman said. "CES is an important technology platform, and we are continuing with our plans on Jan. 5 to share our significant company news including the reveal of the Chevrolet Silverado EV," GM said in a statement..

Other companies to cancel in-person CES plans include Panasonic, ZF, BMW, Mercedes, Magna International, Mobileye, Velodyne Lidar, Veoneer and Volvo.

Other tech companies such as Twitter, T-Mobile, Intel, Amazon and Meta (Facebook) said they would not participate because of health concerns. Technology-focused media outlets such as TechCrunch and The Verge have also withdrawn.

Waymo, the Google-affiliated autonmous driving company, said earlier it would no longer participate in the annual technology showcase next month, citing rising concerns over the omicron variant of the virus. Co-CEO Tekedra Mawakana had been scheduled to deliver a keynote address Jan. 5 and participate in other activities in Las Vegas.
Waymo planned to display its new Class 8 Freightliner Cascadia truck for the first time. Built with redundant autonomous systems in collaboration with Daimler Trucks, the platform is a lynchpin of Waymo's emphasis on self-driving trucking.

"Based on quickly rising COVID infection rates, we've made the difficult decision to pull our physical presence at CES 2022," a Waymo spokeswoman said.

Waymo said in a blog post that it hopes to participate virtually if possible.
Last week, prior to Waymo's announcement, officials with the Consumer Technology Association, which owns and operates CES, said they had received 42 exhibitor cancellations since last Friday, while adding 62 new planned exhibitors in the same time frame.

n a written statement, the organization said the event continues "to show strong momentum," and that "CES 2022 will go forward as important innovation for world health and safety, mobility and solving problems will be exhibited."
On Thursday, the Consumer Technology Association said more than 2,200 exhibitors were still committed to coming as of Dec. 29. Gary Shapiro, the group’s CEO, said last week that canceling the show would hurt the smaller companies and entrepreneurs that count on the event to pitch ideas.

The conference also is enforcing health precautions, such as a vaccination requirement, masking and the use of COVID-19 tests.

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For all of the caterwauling about GM and other companies participating in CES only virtually, an important issue is ignored. This is that it is now a lot more difficult to travel now. Hundreds, if not thousands of airline flights are cancelled each day. This runs a hardship on the corporate representatives who were scheduled to present. It runs a hardship on the industry press who travel to Las Vegas to cover the event. The displays that are transported by truck rather than air, there is a shortage of truck drivers.

What sense does it make to go through all of that when just about every interested party can see the stream of each virtual presentation in real time?
 

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For all of the caterwauling about GM and other companies participating in CES only virtually, an important issue is ignored. This is that it is now a lot more difficult to travel now. Hundreds, if not thousands of airline flights are cancelled each day. This runs a hardship on the corporate representatives who were scheduled to present. It runs a hardship on the industry press who travel to Las Vegas to cover the event. The displays that are transported by truck rather than air, there is a shortage of truck drivers.

What sense does it make to go through all of that when just about every interested party can see the stream of each virtual presentation in real time?
... And hope the internet doesn't crash as well. :rolleyes:
 

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For all of the caterwauling about GM and other companies participating in CES only virtually, an important issue is ignored. This is that it is now a lot more difficult to travel now. Hundreds, if not thousands of airline flights are cancelled each day. This runs a hardship on the corporate representatives who were scheduled to present. It runs a hardship on the industry press who travel to Las Vegas to cover the event. The displays that are transported by truck rather than air, there is a shortage of truck drivers.

What sense does it make to go through all of that when just about every interested party can see the stream of each virtual presentation in real time?
I know there is a lot to be said for seeing and touching with your own eyes, but doing things virtually must save a fortune vs. traveling, setting up displays, etc. - certainly they have to spend money on the virtual presentation, but I've no doubts it is substantially less $$. And, for something like the Silverado debut, will it have any impact being debuted virtually vs. live?
 

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I know there is a lot to be said for seeing and touching with your own eyes, but doing things virtually must save a fortune vs. traveling, setting up displays, etc. - certainly they have to spend money on the virtual presentation, but I've no doubts it is substantially less $$. And, for something like the Silverado debut, will it have any impact being debuted virtually vs. live?
Lets be honest here, I mean, for the majority of people, any automotive reveal is virtual. So few people ever get to see a live reveal, and it's been that way for many years before the Pandemic. We all just click on the story that is told by someone who was there.
 

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I know there is a lot to be said for seeing and touching with your own eyes, but doing things virtually must save a fortune vs. traveling, setting up displays, etc. - certainly they have to spend money on the virtual presentation, but I've no doubts it is substantially less $$. And, for something like the Silverado debut, will it have any impact being debuted virtually vs. live?
If they were going to offer any ride alongs that would have been the only major difference.
 
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For all of the caterwauling about GM and other companies participating in CES only virtually, an important issue is ignored. This is that it is now a lot more difficult to travel now. Hundreds, if not thousands of airline flights are cancelled each day. This runs a hardship on the corporate representatives who were scheduled to present. It runs a hardship on the industry press who travel to Las Vegas to cover the event. The displays that are transported by truck rather than air, there is a shortage of truck drivers.

What sense does it make to go through all of that when just about every interested party can see the stream of each virtual presentation in real time?
But how does only some backing out, and backing out at the last minute help the majority?

Omicron will likely burn out quickly, but I have to ask, what are we doing/thinking, if voices that we are allowed to hear (now) insist the vaccines were never going to prevent infection, only bad outcomes, then why are we worried about cases? (jumping off soap-box)

CES is always in Las Vegas, not saying transportation isn't challenged, but the vast majority of industry booths are stored locally in Las Vegas. Our AAPEX booth is 20' x 60' and we pay about $5,000 for storage, per-year. If we shipped it across the country, we'd still pay $5,000 to store it......


Lets be honest here, I mean, for the majority of people, any automotive reveal is virtual. So few people ever get to see a live reveal, and it's been that way for many years before the Pandemic. We all just click on the story that is told by someone who was there.
For a specific product reveal, I'll tend to agree; but 100's of photographers and reporters crawling over your product and booth for a week is going to give you a lot more exposure, and just because a reveal is in-person doesn't exclude the option of all of your digital messaging that you would be doing in a virtual only reveal.

"In general" virtual trade shows are a complete waste of time; luckily they are about 95% cheaper.
(but not if you back out at the last minute, you would still be spending most of what you would have spent)
 

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And we're back to crazy anti-vax bs.
French are back to their annual reckless New Year Eve parties.


French car-burning returns for New Year's Eve
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Car burning has become a common event in cities across France during New Years Eve (file photo) in the European Union.

A total of 874 cars have been set alight during New Year's Eve celebrations in France, police say.
However, the interior ministry said the number was much lower than in 2019. Authorities also reported a rise in the number of people stopped and detained.
A curfew to tackle Covid-19 meant no significant disruption took place this time last year.
Car burning has effectively become an annual event in French suburbs since riots in 2005 in several cities.
Some 95,000 police and gendarmes were mobilised during recent New Year's celebrations, French media report - including 32,000 firefighters and security personnel.
In Paris, where face masks have been made compulsory again, 779 people were fined for not wearing a mask.
While restrictions have been partially lifted in France, more rules will come into place this month due to concerns for the Omicron variant.
From 3 January, public gatherings will be limited to 2,000 people for indoor events, and remote working will become compulsory for those who are able to

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French are back to their annual reckless New Year Eve parties.


French car-burning returns for New Year's Eve
Published1 day ago


Car burning has become a common event in cities across France during New Years Eve (file photo) in the European Union.

A total of 874 cars have been set alight during New Year's Eve celebrations in France, police say.
However, the interior ministry said the number was much lower than in 2019. Authorities also reported a rise in the number of people stopped and detained.
A curfew to tackle Covid-19 meant no significant disruption took place this time last year.
Car burning has effectively become an annual event in French suburbs since riots in 2005 in several cities.
Some 95,000 police and gendarmes were mobilised during recent New Year's celebrations, French media report - including 32,000 firefighters and security personnel.
In Paris, where face masks have been made compulsory again, 779 people were fined for not wearing a mask.
While restrictions have been partially lifted in France, more rules will come into place this month due to concerns for the Omicron variant.
From 3 January, public gatherings will be limited to 2,000 people for indoor events, and remote working will become compulsory for those who are able to

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Well, the good thing out of that is that at least their burning French cars.

Not a single torched car will be missed.
 

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What anti-fax, a simple post of fact..
The diagram may be factual. The sarcastic inference of text with it, indicates the person who wrote it, along with the person who reposted it here, are willfully ignorant of basic facts about viruses, vaccines, and masks.
 

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basic facts about viruses, vaccines, and masks.
Namely, that CES 2022's so called "health precautions" such as a vaccination requirement, masking and the use of COVID-19 tests are a waste of time, money, and effort at best.

And that companies like Waymo who "made the difficult decision to pull our physical presence" at the conference have ulterior motives.
 

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The diagram may be factual.
The only part of this post that was factual

The sarcastic inference of text with it, indicates the person who wrote it, along with the person who reposted it here, are willfully ignorant of basic facts about viruses, vaccines, and masks.
The rest is conjuncture on your part.

I know family that has been VAXED to the MAX, wear masks and have still gotten Covid.
 

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The only part of this post that was factual


The rest is conjuncture on your part.

I know family that has been VAXED to the MAX, wear masks and have still gotten Covid.
So do I. My parents were that way, Vaxed and every precaution and they got it back last year... or actually the early part of the pandemic's start.
 

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The only part of this post that was factual


The rest is conjuncture on your part.

I know family that has been VAXED to the MAX, wear masks and have still gotten Covid.
Short, simple post, yet demonstrates willfull ignorance of basic facts about viruses, vaccines and masks.

The trifecta. Well done.
 
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