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I met a guy who is a big GP fan. Has a heavily modified GP, in GP clubs... Anyway, he got back from some Pontiac meet and he claims that GM will be putting the LS6 in a GP and it will have all wheel drive. He claims to have actually seen one drive around at the meet. He said the car could be in production as early as 2005.

I personally believe he just saw a car that some vendor built. No way I can see Pontiac essentally building a second GTO. Has anyone heard anything about this?
 

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I dont think that there will be an LS6 after 2004, it is being replaced by the new LS2 V8 that is in the C6 Corvette, this is a 6.0 litre engine and makes about 400hp, it seems a little doubtful that it will be available in a 2005 Grand Prix, when it will also make it's debut in the new 2005 Corvette.

Either he was thinking about the GTO with an LS2 (it already has and LS1), which is a distinct possibility, there have been rummors of a 400hp GTO for 2005, or he was talking about the also rummored Grand Prix GXP, which should also debut for 2005, this car has been said to exist and is in the pipeline for a 2005-2006 debut. The Grand Prix GXP should have a V8, it will either be a DOHC V8 like the one in the Bonneville GXP or small block OHV V8, though I have not heard about the AWD.
 

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Not going to happen with the current platform for the GP. Think about it.
GM has admitted the current GP is a transition car for Pontiac. The next GP is not far away.
Why would GM mid cycle come out with AWD for a soon to be retired platform?
Why would GM build a Bonneville killer?
Why would GM build a Pontiac that competes with the CTS?
What would this AWD V8 GP cost?
Nice idea for a next gen but I doubt we will see a 400 HP GP anytime soon.
 

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GM does need a AWD sedan to compete w/ Ford 500 and the new Mercury. Funny how they tried to make them look like the Audi A6 and Passat, but they basedem on the 90's model and they will both have new models for 05 and 06. Ford will always live in the Past. GM 4EVA. :D
 

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Originally posted by surferdude00711@May 19 2004, 12:51 AM
but they basedem on the 90's model and they will both have new models for 05 and 06. Ford will always live in the Past. GM 4EVA. :D
no offense, but could you please translate that :unsure:
 

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Originally posted by giagastormer+May 19 2004, 12:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (giagastormer @ May 19 2004, 12:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-surferdude00711@May 19 2004, 12:51 AM
but they basedem on the 90's model and they will both have new models for 05 and 06. Ford will always live in the Past. GM 4EVA.  :D
no offense, but could you please translate that :unsure: [/b][/quote]
<_< The Ford 500's styling was based on the 2004 Audi A6 and 2004 Passat, rather than that off the upcoming 2005 A6 and 2006 Passat. Ford, in both engineering sense and styling, will always live in the past. GM4EVA. :D
 

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Originally posted by surferdude00711+May 19 2004, 08:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (surferdude00711 @ May 19 2004, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 12:56 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-surferdude00711
@May 19 2004, 12:51 AM
but they basedem on the 90's model and they will both have new models for 05 and 06. Ford will always live in the Past. GM 4EVA.  :D

no offense, but could you please translate that :unsure:
<_< The Ford 500's styling was based on the 2004 Audi A6 and 2004 Passat, rather than that off the upcoming 2005 A6 and 2006 Passat. Ford, in both engineering sense and styling, will always live in the past. GM4EVA. :D [/b][/quote]
The Ford 500 does look alot like the 2004 Passat/A6, that is not a bad thing. The 500's design was not "based" of either one of them, they were just a goal for Ford to reach in its design statement. So, based off what you are saying, will the 500 replacement be "based" on the 2005 A6 or 2006 Passat? (styling wise). I am not sure about this, but wasnt one of the lead exterior designers of the 500 come from VW??
 

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Originally posted by Canuck@May 17 2004, 09:52 PM
Why would GM build a Bonneville killer?

Why would GM build a Pontiac that competes with the CTS?
#1= The GP GXP is said to get the now car-approved LS4 5.3 320hp V8. That would put it ahead of the Bonnie.
#2= The GTO puts a hurting on the CTS, both in performance and in quality. I assume that you ment the CTS-V. In that case, the GTO is getting the "400hp" LS2 this year, and scoops to add 50hp per scoop. :rolleyes:

Like someone said, the LS6, along with the LS1 and all the rest of the Gen III small blocks will be phased out after next year. The GP will get a V8, but probably not the LS2 or LS6. TOO much power for FWD or any AWD system GM currently has.
 

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I will certainly not be surprised if we see a bigger small block in the years to come for the GM GXP.

With DCX putting a HEMI in everything they have, why not? :lol:
 

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Originally posted by Jabroni+May 20 2004, 02:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jabroni @ May 20 2004, 02:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 12:56 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-surferdude00711
@May 19 2004, 12:51 AM
but they basedem on the 90's model and they will both have new models for 05 and 06. Ford will always live in the Past. GM 4EVA.  :D

no offense, but could you please translate that :unsure:

<_< The Ford 500's styling was based on the 2004 Audi A6 and 2004 Passat, rather than that off the upcoming 2005 A6 and 2006 Passat. Ford, in both engineering sense and styling, will always live in the past. GM4EVA. :D
The Ford 500 does look alot like the 2004 Passat/A6, that is not a bad thing. The 500's design was not "based" of either one of them, they were just a goal for Ford to reach in its design statement. So, based off what you are saying, will the 500 replacement be "based" on the 2005 A6 or 2006 Passat? (styling wise). I am not sure about this, but wasnt one of the lead exterior designers of the 500 come from VW?? [/b][/quote]
It not bad, per say, but Ford i so upsesed with Retro even its brand-new cars don't have even minorly futuristic designs; not to say the Cobalt is ( :unsure: ) And how ennoying is it with the HEMI in soo many DC products!!? :plasma:
 

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Originally posted by surferdude00711@May 20 2004, 08:00 PM
And how ennoying is it with the HEMI in soo many DC products!!? :plasma:
Why is a Annoying? because they've made it a success Yet again :krider: ?
 

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Originally posted by surferdude00711@May 19 2004, 12:51 AM
GM does need a AWD sedan to compete w/ Ford 500 and the new Mercury.
frankly i'm surprised the malibu (or at least maxx) isn't offered as AWD. i don't think every GM vehicle has to be AWD, and perhaps GM's research shows it's not a good idea, but i SEEMS to me like it'd be smart. especially since, from what i read here, the G6 won't offer AWD.
 
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