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I Will Not Drive the Blob
September 10, 2021
By Peter Holderith, The Drive

We've all seen it before, the blob. No hood, no trunk, just a voluminous cavern with humans on the inside and some wild styling features on the outside. The word "mobility" is thrown around, there are exotic yet sustainable and/or recyclable materials--which is good, because usually you never see it again. Hopefully, they can stuff it all in the blue bin. It's a lesson shown time and time again: If you want to get people excited, a formless thing is not going to do it.

When you look at certain electric vehicle concepts with varying degrees of autonomy baked in--whether that technology is viable or not--the design trend becomes clear. The blob is the future of cars. And I do not want to drive the blob. In fact, I'd wager nobody wants to drive the blob.

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Rivian, Lucid, Ford, General Motors, and other American automakers (even Tesla) all understand this. For some reason, though, German automakers are not only clinging to this anti-shape, but trying to base entire EV product lines around it. The blob does have its aerodynamic advantages, which help negate the range penalties that come with a cabin full of energy-sapping creature comforts. But what matters now in selling EVs is not about proving that electric cars can be hyper-efficient eco-pods with burlap seats and mushroom plastics. It's about showing that they can fit into people's lives in a way that doesn't challenge their understanding of the world around them.

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The EQS is an extremely nice place to be inside, and Mercedes doubtlessly packed the car with a trainload of gadgets, but in a couple of years when a guy in a Lucid pulls up next to you, well, you'll just look like a dork.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Thought this article is funny and discusses a topic that has been puzzling me - the Germans continuing to put out science projects ('d say that applies to BMW and Mercedes, not so much with Audi).
 

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Read the thread title and immediately knew it was about the EQS...don't know why it looks so...not good. The S and E class look gorgeous, but most of their EQ_ EV designs (like the EV G wagon and EQS SUV Maybach - sorry @mgescuro )...along w/ BMW are just not good.
 

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I've said it before, this is the American makes big chance to be seen vs. the Germans. I'm pretty excited by what American makes have coming out - the Hummer, Lyriq, Celestiq, even Ford's stuff looks interesting. BMW/Merc's shown BEV product does not interest me (and their ICE offerings DO interest me). Even Audi's BEV offerings, while nice, just look like more of the same with BEV vs. ICE - nothing particularly fresh. I'd not say the German's are losing the game as the American makes did in the 1980's, but they are definitely fumbling the ball and giving an opportunity. I agree with the article, a 10 year old Tesla Model S is more compelling to me than the Mercedes IQS/EQS.
 

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I think you are spot-on with this, when you look at UK car sales in August the Ford Ranger sales are not included in SMMT British car sales as it is a commercial vehicle but if it was the Ford Ranger would have been No2 best seller in the UK in August if it was included which is absolutely unheard of in the UK a pick-up at No2 and it not even a greenie EV. Car design in Europe has become very stale and most of the cars especially the German ones have got worse more blobby, saying that though l Ford's cars were down -52% & Vauxhall -36% car sales were massively down in August, but Ford commercial sales were up lot pick-up trucks up +47% and vans up +41%.

Ford's UK Fiesta, Ecosport, Puma, Focus, Tourneo, Mach e, Kuga, Mondeo, Mustang, S-Max, Galaxy & Ford GT cars sales 5,205

Ford UK Transit & Ranger commercial sales 8,358

Back in the late 70's one in every three new car sales sold in the UK was a good ole trusty RWD Ford Cortina was averaging 16,500 UK sales a month compared to the Ford Puma still a No1 best selling car in the UK in August like the Cortina was for Ford in August 2021 but the Puma hit the No1 best selling car in the UKwith just 1,801 sales the Ford Ranger was 26 sales behind the UK's best selling car in August.

British Leyland were very much wiped out by some superb cars launched in the UK in the late 60's when British Leyland were riding high with 55% UK market share, Ford Escort MK1 & Mk1 Capri's Mk3 Cortina all looked absolutely awesome with their unique classic coke bottle shape generation Greta would have stop hugging trees and been more into car tuning if they had cars like these today l really cant see anybody wanting to shoehorn themselves into Citroen Amy or Opel Rock-e shoe box, Ford dropped a F1 lotus BDA twin cam in some of them won everything on the track and off road in rallying for a whole decade in the UK nearly every car on the road was a Ford by the late 70's, one in three was a RWD Cortina happy days that sadly l will never see repeated, all BL had left was the Mini Metro down and out on the ropes by the 80's, BL, Ford & Vauxhall were all militant and out on strike in the 70's in the UK only two survived one BL just made very crap due boring cars that kept breaking down that nobody wanted it was simple as that, Ford & Vauxhall were both highly most profitable times ever in Europe relative to today in the early 70's in Europe. To cut a long story short there is nothing wrong with adding a bit of classic styling mojo to steel body panels of a car to boost sales/profit.

What have we got to look forward to in future ultra dull boring blobby EV. cars, that are very expensive to buy and as dull as ditchwater to look at have zero personality character, they are going to restricted by speed limiters and fitted with fully autonomous driving to follow that will never work, absolutely zero infrastructure has been put in place to accommodate EV's, and if the UK was to change it's fleet of 30 million internal combustion powered cars overnight cars from being powered by fossil fuels to electric it would need all the rare earth material in the world to do that meaning nobody no other country in the world would have access them. So there will be a massive disconnect in supply and demand which will send the prices of rare earth materials sky rocketing.

Biggest problem Ford will have with selling blobby EV cars in the future will be trunk space is full of batteries the blobby shape just destroys a lot more of the useful space. Ford started production of it's Ford Focus EV at its plant Saarlouis in Germany, Ford sold just 61 Focus Electric models in Europe in 2016, down from 70 in 2015 so the Focus EV line got shut down in Germany. When both the Fiesta & Focus both have to be an EV their sales will drop off if they remain the same shape as the batteries will kill off the trunk space and they will cost a fortune to buy with very little profit on the roof, sorry l could not live with an unpractical blobby RWD BMW or Mercedes in the future, it's like the blobby Mercedes are on a green death wish in the photo, hopefully Cadillac and Lincoln will start to steal a lot of car sales from the Germans in the future.

Renault were one of the very first car makers to start phasing out internal combustion cars in Europe, now they are struggling big time to make ends meet. Now they are begging the European Union to extend the sale of EV's only to 2040 rather than 2030 because there sales and profits are tanking. Gotta say l agree with Renault on this one.

What will l be driving in 2030 or before? Probably a very expensive electric Ford pick-up truck hopefully if lam still alive, maybe a nice Chevy Pick-up EV would be better can't see that happening anytime soon at the moment.

I will not drive a blob.
 

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I think you are spot-on with this, when you look at UK car sales in August the Ford Ranger sales are not included in SMMT British car sales as it is a commercial vehicle but if it was the Ford Ranger would have been No2 best seller in the UK in August if it was included which is absolutely unheard of in the UK a pick-up at No2 and it not even a greenie EV. Car design in Europe has become very stale and most of the cars especially the German ones have got worse more blobby, saying that though l Ford's cars were down -52% & Vauxhall -36% car sales were massively down in August, but Ford commercial sales were up lot pick-up trucks up +47% and vans up +41%.

Ford's UK Fiesta, Ecosport, Puma, Focus, Tourneo, Mach e, Kuga, Mondeo, Mustang, S-Max, Galaxy & Ford GT cars sales 5,205

Ford UK Transit & Ranger commercial sales 8,358

Back in the late 70's one in every three new car sales sold in the UK was a good ole trusty RWD Ford Cortina was averaging 16,500 UK sales a month compared to the Ford Puma still a No1 best selling car in the UK in August like the Cortina was for Ford in August 2021 but the Puma hit the No1 best selling car in the UKwith just 1,801 sales the Ford Ranger was 26 sales behind the UK's best selling car in August.

British Leyland were very much wiped out by some superb cars launched in the UK in the late 60's when British Leyland were riding high with 55% UK market share, Ford Escort MK1 & Mk1 Capri's Mk3 Cortina all looked absolutely awesome with their unique classic coke bottle shape generation Greta would have stop hugging trees and been more into car tuning if they had cars like these today l really cant see anybody wanting to shoehorn themselves into Citroen Amy or Opel Rock-e shoe box, Ford dropped a F1 lotus BDA twin cam in some of them won everything on the track and off road in rallying for a whole decade in the UK nearly every car on the road was a Ford by the late 70's, one in three was a RWD Cortina happy days that sadly l will never see repeated, all BL had left was the Mini Metro down and out on the ropes by the 80's, BL, Ford & Vauxhall were all militant and out on strike in the 70's in the UK only two survived one BL just made very crap due boring cars that kept breaking down that nobody wanted it was simple as that, Ford & Vauxhall were both highly most profitable times ever in Europe relative to today in the early 70's in Europe. To cut a long story short there is nothing wrong with adding a bit of classic styling mojo to steel body panels of a car to boost sales/profit.

What have we got to look forward to in future ultra dull boring blobby EV. cars, that are very expensive to buy and as dull as ditchwater to look at have zero personality character, they are going to restricted by speed limiters and fitted with fully autonomous driving to follow that will never work, absolutely zero infrastructure has been put in place to accommodate EV's, and if the UK was to change it's fleet of 30 million internal combustion powered cars overnight cars from being powered by fossil fuels to electric it would need all the rare earth material in the world to do that meaning nobody no other country in the world would have access them. So there will be a massive disconnect in supply and demand which will send the prices of rare earth materials sky rocketing.

Biggest problem Ford will have with selling blobby EV cars in the future will be trunk space is full of batteries the blobby shape just destroys a lot more of the useful space. Ford started production of it's Ford Focus EV at its plant Saarlouis in Germany, Ford sold just 61 Focus Electric models in Europe in 2016, down from 70 in 2015 so the Focus EV line got shut down in Germany. When both the Fiesta & Focus both have to be an EV their sales will drop off if they remain the same shape as the batteries will kill off the trunk space and they will cost a fortune to buy with very little profit on the roof, sorry l could not live with an unpractical blobby RWD BMW or Mercedes in the future, it's like the blobby Mercedes are on a green death wish in the photo, hopefully Cadillac and Lincoln will start to steal a lot of car sales from the Germans in the future.

Renault were one of the very first car makers to start phasing out internal combustion cars in Europe, now they are struggling big time to make ends meet. Now they are begging the European Union to extend the sale of EV's only to 2040 rather than 2030 because there sales and profits are tanking. Gotta say l agree with Renault on this one.

What will l be driving in 2030 or before? Probably a very expensive electric Ford pick-up truck hopefully if lam still alive, maybe a nice Chevy Pick-up EV would be better can't see that happening anytime soon at the moment.

I will not drive a blob.
I feel like they are putting the chicken before the egg. I think the blob is fine once we get self driving cars, real self driving cars that can pick us up at our house and take us where we want to go. Meaning we won't own cars anymore. But, it appears that true self driving cars are a long way away. I feel like the Germans were thinking self driving cars would be here now and now are caught with their pants down now that the reality of self-driving cars has hit.

Just a thought, could be totally wrong.
 

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I think you are spot-on with this, when you look at UK car sales in August the Ford Ranger sales are not included in SMMT British car sales as it is a commercial vehicle but if it was the Ford Ranger would have been No2 best seller in the UK in August if it was included which is absolutely unheard of in the UK a pick-up at No2 and it not even a greenie EV. Car design in Europe has become very stale and most of the cars especially the German ones have got worse more blobby, saying that though l Ford's cars were down -52% & Vauxhall -36% car sales were massively down in August, but Ford commercial sales were up lot pick-up trucks up +47% and vans up +41%.

Ford's UK Fiesta, Ecosport, Puma, Focus, Tourneo, Mach e, Kuga, Mondeo, Mustang, S-Max, Galaxy & Ford GT cars sales 5,205

Ford UK Transit & Ranger commercial sales 8,358

Back in the late 70's one in every three new car sales sold in the UK was a good ole trusty RWD Ford Cortina was averaging 16,500 UK sales a month compared to the Ford Puma still a No1 best selling car in the UK in August like the Cortina was for Ford in August 2021 but the Puma hit the No1 best selling car in the UKwith just 1,801 sales the Ford Ranger was 26 sales behind the UK's best selling car in August.

British Leyland were very much wiped out by some superb cars launched in the UK in the late 60's when British Leyland were riding high with 55% UK market share, Ford Escort MK1 & Mk1 Capri's Mk3 Cortina all looked absolutely awesome with their unique classic coke bottle shape generation Greta would have stop hugging trees and been more into car tuning if they had cars like these today l really cant see anybody wanting to shoehorn themselves into Citroen Amy or Opel Rock-e shoe box, Ford dropped a F1 lotus BDA twin cam in some of them won everything on the track and off road in rallying for a whole decade in the UK nearly every car on the road was a Ford by the late 70's, one in three was a RWD Cortina happy days that sadly l will never see repeated, all BL had left was the Mini Metro down and out on the ropes by the 80's, BL, Ford & Vauxhall were all militant and out on strike in the 70's in the UK only two survived one BL just made very crap due boring cars that kept breaking down that nobody wanted it was simple as that, Ford & Vauxhall were both highly most profitable times ever in Europe relative to today in the early 70's in Europe. To cut a long story short there is nothing wrong with adding a bit of classic styling mojo to steel body panels of a car to boost sales/profit.

What have we got to look forward to in future ultra dull boring blobby EV. cars, that are very expensive to buy and as dull as ditchwater to look at have zero personality character, they are going to restricted by speed limiters and fitted with fully autonomous driving to follow that will never work, absolutely zero infrastructure has been put in place to accommodate EV's, and if the UK was to change it's fleet of 30 million internal combustion powered cars overnight cars from being powered by fossil fuels to electric it would need all the rare earth material in the world to do that meaning nobody no other country in the world would have access them. So there will be a massive disconnect in supply and demand which will send the prices of rare earth materials sky rocketing.

Biggest problem Ford will have with selling blobby EV cars in the future will be trunk space is full of batteries the blobby shape just destroys a lot more of the useful space. Ford started production of it's Ford Focus EV at its plant Saarlouis in Germany, Ford sold just 61 Focus Electric models in Europe in 2016, down from 70 in 2015 so the Focus EV line got shut down in Germany. When both the Fiesta & Focus both have to be an EV their sales will drop off if they remain the same shape as the batteries will kill off the trunk space and they will cost a fortune to buy with very little profit on the roof, sorry l could not live with an unpractical blobby RWD BMW or Mercedes in the future, it's like the blobby Mercedes are on a green death wish in the photo, hopefully Cadillac and Lincoln will start to steal a lot of car sales from the Germans in the future.

Renault were one of the very first car makers to start phasing out internal combustion cars in Europe, now they are struggling big time to make ends meet. Now they are begging the European Union to extend the sale of EV's only to 2040 rather than 2030 because there sales and profits are tanking. Gotta say l agree with Renault on this one.

What will l be driving in 2030 or before? Probably a very expensive electric Ford pick-up truck hopefully if lam still alive, maybe a nice Chevy Pick-up EV would be better can't see that happening anytime soon at the moment.

I will not drive a blob.
Then what about the blob driving you rather? ;)
 

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I'd drive a Lincoln MkBlob if they actually named it that.
 
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