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But the manufacturers will not give the large discounts on the 2005 models till the dealers have cleared out thier 2004 models. Once that is done you will see $4000+ incentive on the 2005 models.

I think GM,Ford and DMX are scared of a No ****er Sticker. They try these things in thier Dealer Marketing Associstions and generally wind up adding the incentives back on then financing the vehicle at 0%

But what if 0% wasn't there and what if the Venture was only $19365, $600 less than the Kia? $4000 less than a Caravan? and so on. I think it would work,people would eventually finance at ?% and go on, telling thier friend they bought the Venture cause it was the least expensive 1 out there. But the problem of people oweing more than they trade is worth comes into play, they are now financed at a low interest rate and thier payment on the new 1 would be through the roof.

Incentives are a very big problem, waying out both sides it could be done, lower prices with no incentives. But this would take 6-10 years to accomplish, without loosing more marketshare to the imports.
 
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