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Holden version of new GM global V6 to be called 'Alloytec'
13 Jul 2004
Source: just-auto.com editorial team

General Motors Australian unit Holden has revealed details of the new global V6 engines it will use in upcoming new generations of its locally-built vehicles.

The new V6, named 'Alloytec' for Australia, has been produced for export in Holden’s engine plant in Port Melbourne, Victoria, since late last year and will be introduced to the local market next month in the updated VZ Holden Calais, Commodore and WL Caprice and Statesman models, replacing the 3.8-litre Buick-designed V6 engines that power current models. Versions of the Commodore line are exported to the Far East, Asia-Pacific, South America and the UK with Holden, Chevrolet or Vauxhall badging.

Holden said the global V6 engineering and manufacturing project is the most significant engine programme ever undertaken by an Australian vehicle manufacturer, given the five years of strategic development, the manufacturing of variants for markets around the world, the development of its own Alloytec variant and the commissioning of a $A400 million engine plant.

The Alloytec engine for the Commodore line is a lightweight all-aluminium 3.6-litre V6. There are two variants - Alloytec and Alloytec 190 - which deliver more peak power and considerably more torque across the rev range than the current 3.8 litre V6 while maintaining a similar level of fuel economy and producing fewer emissions. The base Alloytec produces 175kW of power at 6,000rpm and 320Nm of torque at 2,800rpm – 14% more power and 5% more torque than the outgoing 152kW V6 – while the sports performance Alloytec 190 version produces 190kW of power at 6500 rpm and 340Nm of torque at 3200rpm – 90% of the torque is produced between 1570 and 5870 rpm, which is a 59% wider rev range than the previous 171kW supercharged V6 performance engine. The 175kW engine will be combined with an updated version of Holden’s current four-speed automatic transmission while the 190kW unit is teamed with either a new five-speed automatic or a six speed manual transmission.

Like similar engines recently introduced in GM’s North American-built Cadillac line, the new Holden V6s have double overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder and electronically controlled and hydraulically actuated continuously variable inlet cam phasing.

The 190kw versions also has variable cam phasing on the camshaft, a GM engine ‘first’, and a dual stage variable intake manifold. Other new features include electronic throttle control and coil-on-plug ignition.

Localisation of the Alloytec V6 for Australia took place both there and in the US and required more than 200,000 staff hours, 143 experimental engines and 60 specific tests. Calibrating the engine software for local conditions and driving alone took two years and required 15 specialist engineers.

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Originally posted by Ming@Jul 13 2004, 02:17 PM
Holden version of new GM global V6 to be called 'Alloytec'
Another missed opportunity to start creating a recognizable engine brand.

How far will 'AlloyTec' go when another company appears to own the trademark? (See www.alloytec.com).

This appears to be a repeat of the situation with 'Vortec', where another company owns www.vortec.com. The GM engine site is www.gmvortec.com. How many people will remember to use the GM prefix on that web domain?

DCX owns HEMI, www.hemi.com, and the most recognizable automotive engine name. While GM can't create a recognizable engine brand overnight, it would be great to see it create names that it can completely own and market.

Since I'm no marketing genius (my degrees are in I.T.), I invite others to comment. Perhaps I'm missing the point.
 

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"that thing got an alloytec?" doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it? they'll certainly need a different name if they want to market it, but perhaps they don't really care and will emphasize the cars instead.

personally i think an engine name people can get familiar with is a good idea. "iron duke" was cool, ecotec and vortec work, magnum and triton sound good to me too. alloytec? might interest a metallurgist... but not many others!
 

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Is this the same engine used in the CTS? If not, why?

Alloytec is a lame name, regardless if it's taken or not.

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Maybe I read the article wrong but isn't Alloytec the name for this engine in Australia? This new series of motors or global motor or whatever might have a different marketing name here in North America. I could be wrong.
 

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Originally posted by ByTheLake@Jul 13 2004, 02:40 PM
Alloytec is a lame name, regardless if it's taken or not.
i cant agree more.

if you think thats lame the motor in the ford focus used to be called "Ztec"... how much more unoriginal is that.

the picture looks like the current 3.6 used in the CTS and Rendevous Ultra.
 

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Originally posted by ByTheLake@Jul 13 2004, 09:52 AM
DCX owns HEMI, www.hemi.com, and the most recognizable automotive engine name.  While GM can't create a recognizable engine brand overnight, it would be great to see it create names that it can completely own and market.

Since I'm no marketing genius (my degrees are in I.T.), I invite others to comment.  Perhaps I'm missing the point.
the hemi has been around since the fifty's

buick had a cool engine, it was called the Nailhead. Nailheads where used to power everything from street rods to bonneville top speed cars in the 50's. tell me thats not a cool name for an engine. these engines where massive torque producers. i dont know why they catch on. :blink: i was hoping GM would revive this engine some time i think its a cool engine to have.

heres a little something on the nail head.

http://www.carcraft.com/thehistoryof/65502/
 

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Ugh.

Ecotec
Vtec
Alloytec
Vortec
Zetec

Time for a new suffix!
 

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:rolleyes: who cares what its called?

Yes it is a GM HF V6 of the same family as the 3.8 in the CTS, SRX, STS, and a few other cars. Holden will make a 2.8 and a 3.8 model down the line as well. Teh 2.8 wil be the base V6 for the CTS, and will be used to great extent in Europe and Oz. It could also possibly find its way into other cars here in the US. Would make for a good motor in a Saturn. 2.8 liters, DOHC, VVT, and 215hp.
 

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Originally posted by sceltor@Jul 13 2004, 06:31 PM
Ugh.

Ecotec
Vtec
Alloytec
Vortec
Zetec

Time for a new suffix!
Don't forget the Ford Duratec!
 

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Originally posted by ibechip@Jul 13 2004, 02:22 PM
...Does anybody know how to convert those numbers to horsepower and torque?
For my own edification, I've researched this before, and here's my understanding (and as demonstrated already by Smaart Aas Saabr):

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To convert horsepower to kilowatts - multiply by 0.7457

e.g. 235 horsepower = 175.2 kw

To convert kilowatts to horsepower - multiply by 1.341

e.g. 175 kw = 234.7 horspower
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Newton-meters to pounds-feet - multiply by 0.738

e.g. 320 newton meters = 236.2 lb.-ft

Pounds-feet to Newton-meters - multiply by 1.356

e.g. 235 lf.-ft. = 318.7 newton meters

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Source: POWER CONVERSIONS
 

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why cant ever one just do what america does and not try to be different. (I dont care that the metric system is in a sence easier to understand and more uniform than the standard system. (maybe when you grow up using it, but I'll be damned if I understand it now. Probably gonna have to learn it since I'm going to auto tech school next year.)
 

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Originally posted by akumaknight@Jul 14 2004, 05:18 AM
why cant ever one just do what america does and not try to be different. (I dont care that the metric system is in a sence easier to understand and more uniform than the standard system. (maybe when you grow up using it, but I'll be damned if I understand it now. Probably gonna have to learn it since I'm going to auto tech school next year.)
Canada uses HP and LB/ft numbers instead of kilowatt and newtons to measure torque and horsepower....and we're generally a metric country, km/h and kilo's for us
 

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Originally posted by akumaknight@Jul 14 2004, 10:18 AM
why cant ever one just do what america does and not try to be different. (I dont care that the metric system is in a sence easier to understand and more uniform than the standard system. (maybe when you grow up using it, but I'll be damned if I understand it now. Probably gonna have to learn it since I'm going to auto tech school next year.)
I often wondered why the USA doesn't adopt the more sensible metric system. Perhaps America should be more flexible rather than expecting most of the rest of the planet to adopt to our customs and standards.
 
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