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And about blew my load. The guy owns 3 other Vettes, a C5 Z06 and a C4 ZR1. The Z06 is MUCH wider and lower looking that a regular C6. The power was great, but it was as expected, so it wasn't as awesome as the sound. He said it had the stock exhaust, and it sounded insane. We drove through a couple parking lots looking for a space away from everyone else, which took a while on a Friday afternoon, but the whole time everyone was gawking at us.


The car was black with very dark tint and black wheels, looks like it could have been the Batmobile. It is absolutely gorgeous.

These cars cannot be appreciated from video and pictures, they look absolutely stunning. Only complaint- interior is ****. This can be partly excused by the sound look and power, but the fact that it had an interior as bad as a Cobalt was kind of disappointing.

Now I need about 98 grand to buy one of these puppies. (nice mark up for us Canukians huh?)
 

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Yeah they are only about 75k$ in the States, why not go and buy one there and bring it back?

Don't fret last year the dealers were asking $105 - 125 k for the ****in things!

Dunno how you can complain of interior, I mean don't you have an Impala :D

Now the exhaust note is really hot when you punch the gas down and the second half opens... ooooh boy :drive:

Seen a few around town. The black one with the polished rims has this air of "sneaking" around, I find it very attractive.



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I still can't figure out why people say the Vette interior is crap. This is a mystery that will likely never be unravelled in my lifetime.
A question for the OP: If some switches and componentry were not from the Cobalt, and if you have never been told the two cars share similar switches, would you still say the interior is crap?

When I was at the autoshow and sat in the car, I thought it wass an exremely well-designed interior. So well thought-out, in fact, I can see why the foreign press was heaping up so much praise on the interior.
 

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The Porsche 928 was almost entirely made by VW. But it wasn't until automotive journalists started to point out this fact that people started to make fun of the car.
Before all that, people were saying the 928 interior was the finest and highest quality in the industry.
 

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I don't know if foreign press was heaping praise, methinks they complained.

I think the main thing is that Corvette interiors have been lambasted ever since the C3 days.

Indeed the C2 "recessed cone" gauges and "breasts" looks incredibly cool and not much can compare.

The C4 Mk I dash was a total horrible thing

C4 Mk II dash was better, but nah - still ergonomically crazy.

For the C5 they fixed the ergonomics and made it actually very easy to use and a very functional ****pit for a 180 mi/h car. HUD is very good to have also. But the leather / plastics feel "cheapy"

C6 improved the cheapy and the look, but granted not to Porsche standards. The leather-wrapped dash seems to be good enough...

Thing is, "Porsche standards", well the car costs nearly 1/2 the Porsche to buy, burns 3/4 as much gas as the Porsche, costs 1/3 as much to insure, costs 1/4 as much to maintain and costs 1/10th as much to fix while being quicker and a bigger trunk...



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The Porsche 928 was almost entirely made by VW. But it wasn't until automotive journalists started to point out this fact that people started to make fun of the car.
Before all that, people were saying the 928 interior was the finest and highest quality in the industry.
This is purely ficticious I think except the "finest" part. It was also the fastest production car in US for many years.

The 928 was basically entirely engineered and produced by Porsche. The automatic transmission was however purchased from Mercedes-Benz (with modified gearing... but only American cocaine dealers who are too high to clutch bought automatic Porsche). The manual was a ZF unit.

I think you are thinking the 914 which was sold as a "VW-Porsche" in Europe and Porsche in USA... made by Karmann, out of a Porsche-designed body containing a hodgepodge of random Volkswagen (Beetle, 411, etc) partsbin components. But these cars were cheap to buy and still are today, if you can find one not totally rotted away)

The 914 was replaced by Porsche 924, VW didn't want any part in the business anymore, but Porsche had already done half the development... again VW engine (as used in AMC Gremlin, Audi, VW LT van) and some VW partsbin components. But much more expensive.

Nobody ever really liked 924

Porsche put their own engine in it and called 944, this one was better recieved because it was fast and handled well. But still it wasn't too well recieved, the Boxster (Porsche 986) did much better in this regard.



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This is purely ficticious I think except the "finest" part. It was also the fastest production car in US for many years.

The 928 was basically entirely engineered and produced by Porsche. The automatic transmission was however purchased from Mercedes-Benz (with modified gearing... but only American cocaine dealers who are too high to clutch bought automatic Porsche). The manual was a ZF unit.

I think you are thinking the 914 which was sold as a "VW-Porsche" in Europe and Porsche in USA... made by Karmann, out of a Porsche-designed body containing a hodgepodge of random Volkswagen (Beetle, 411, etc) partsbin components. But these cars were cheap to buy and still are today, if you can find one not totally rotted away)

The 914 was replaced by Porsche 924, VW didn't want any part in the business anymore, but Porsche had already done half the development... again VW engine (as used in AMC Gremlin, Audi, VW LT van) and some VW partsbin components. But much more expensive.

Nobody ever really liked 924

Porsche put their own engine in it and called 944, this one was better recieved because it was fast and handled well. But still it wasn't too well recieved, the Boxster (Porsche 986) did much better in this regard.
I'll be darned. I'm not the only one who knows the 924 and AMC Gremlin shared engines!
Lol, and all those years those import fanboys at www.forums.caranddriver.com were calling me a crackpot every time I brought it up!
 

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I just bleeping love the Z06. I don't know how anyone could feel by the seat of the pants driving the two between the Z06 and ZR1, at least I probably couldn't. Did anyone catch the fact the MSRP on the ZR1 is $103K and change and that they had to mention the $850 destination charge. I'm out then.

I'm sure some of you caught this two years ago, Z06 chasing the Ford GT in the Bullrun though Detroit. In the first video the group had just left Windsor, Ontario after spending the night there and are entering Detroit off the Ambassador Bridge. Video two is a continuation through Dearborn and out to Romulus, where Detroit Metro Airport is. According to the video, they made it out to the airport in less than 8 minutes, a drive that would take about 20 min from the bridge. The driver of the Ford GT was it's chief designer, who was working for FMC at the time. This is just insane how fast they were moving through traffic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLw_Y-WuuI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGk1iFa_roU
 

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One tried to race me the other day when I was driving the SS. It was hilarious, his raw 505 horsepower racing machine against my 500-pound-heavier boat-of-a-car with a 300 horsepower 305. I opened the secondaries for laughs and man when he just barely stepped on the gas it opened right up and sounded awesome. He squeeled the tires going 55, something one could only dream about doing with my little 5.0 litre.

It's got the vacuum-actuated exhaust system right?
 

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Yeah they are only about 75k$ in the States, why not go and buy one there and bring it back?

Don't fret last year the dealers were asking $105 - 125 k for the ****in things!

Dunno how you can complain of interior, I mean don't you have an Impala :D

Now the exhaust note is really hot when you punch the gas down and the second half opens... ooooh boy :drive:

Seen a few around town. The black one with the polished rims has this air of "sneaking" around, I find it very attractive.
Not that I have 2 dimes to rub together at this point, but I also think there was something with the bumpers that RIV said 2006-2008 Vette's can't be imported or something. But I think there is also a large fee that probably negates most of the advantage anyway.

I still can't figure out why people say the Vette interior is crap. This is a mystery that will likely never be unravelled in my lifetime.
A question for the OP: If some switches and componentry were not from the Cobalt, and if you have never been told the two cars share similar switches, would you still say the interior is crap?

When I was at the autoshow and sat in the car, I thought it wass an exremely well-designed interior. So well thought-out, in fact, I can see why the foreign press was heaping up so much praise on the interior.
If I had the money to buy one, the interior wouldn't stop me from getting it. The looks are actually pretty neat and tidy, my problem was the feel of some of it. I never got to drive, so I can't comment on the driving controls, but the biggest "blah" factor was the silver plastic around the shifter that goes up and around the radio/nav unit...it is that clickity clack cheapo plastic things you buy at WalMart are made from. Also, when adjusting the air vents, the controls there feel flimsy.

Like I said, none of this would stop be from buying one for a second if I was actually in the market, but I honestly was a bit surprised that some of the plastics weren't a bit more upmarket.

So in summary, the design/look is fantastic, but the feel is a little bit too close to the Little Tikes Cozy Coupe I had when I was 2 or 3.
 
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Hell of a car, idn't it?
 

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Not that I have 2 dimes to rub together at this point, but I also think there was something with the bumpers that RIV said 2006-2008 Vette's can't be imported or something. But I think there is also a large fee that probably negates most of the advantage anyway.



If I had the money to buy one, the interior wouldn't stop me from getting it. The looks are actually pretty neat and tidy, my problem was the feel of some of it. I never got to drive, so I can't comment on the driving controls, but the biggest "blah" factor was the silver plastic around the shifter that goes up and around the radio/nav unit...it is that clickity clack cheapo plastic things you buy at WalMart are made from. Also, when adjusting the air vents, the controls there feel flimsy.

Like I said, none of this would stop be from buying one for a second if I was actually in the market, but I honestly was a bit surprised that some of the plastics weren't a bit more upmarket.

So in summary, the design/look is fantastic, but the feel is a little bit too close to the Little Tikes Cozy Coupe I had when I was 2 or 3.
Superior design and ergonomics will always trump superior quality and craftsmanship.
Always.
 

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Just to make sure you don't get away with it (saying something like, "But the best combination is when you have the best of both worlds: superior ergonomics and superior quality!"), I've included the 911 picture as a reference, and as a testament to superior quality with inferior ergonomics:



Superior quality, but tiny center console buttons, horrible dials with the confusing array of christmas lights and a speedo bezel as small as the coolant temp/system voltage bezel are a testament to inferior ergonomics and substandard design.
 
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