[nsap]

GMI Exclusive: 2006 Cadillac STS-V and more!!
By: TaHoE

The Following information was from the lips of Marc LeNeve (Trust me this was my first Press Pass Autoshow, I took down everything like the nerd I am...lol)

STS-V

Supercharged 4.6L V-8

430HP

Hydra-Matic 5-speed automatic transmission with overdrive 5th gear and electronically controlled shifts with driver shift control

Improved Spoiler with a higher tilt degree.  Spoiler will be integrated more than the Add On Spoiler.

3rd brake light integrated into spoiler
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STS Information


W/O tack-on Spoiler (Marc LeNeve hates the Spoiler)
Top Speed Electronically limited to 130MPH

W Tack-On Spoiler
Top Speed Electronically limited to 155MPH

**Apparently the STS was getting lifted from the back without a spoiler, so they needed to give it a spoiler to keep it on the ground to quote Marc "...thats how powerful this car is..."**

0-60 in under 6 Seconds!! (Probably the RWD V-8, but no specifics were mentioned)
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Other Cadillac Information:

3 V-Models:

CTS-V
STS-V
XLR-V

Escalade will be getting a V-10 or V-12 in the NEAR future
XLR may be getting a V-10 or V-12 in the NEAR future
STS may be getting a V-10 or V-12 later on down the road

LaNeve didn't mension anything about a more powerful CTS-V but he did mension stuff about the future CTS:

-New model in 2.5 Years
-Wheelbase will shrink by 3 inches

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V-10s and V-12s will debut with DoD

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Saab 9-3x will be on the road in 18 Months!!

Saab 9-7x has 18" Alloy wheels
It also has a 9-5 cupholder and center console ignition

**Please SITE GMI FOR THE INFORMATION LISTED ABOVE, THANKS**

 

[coolcaddy]

This is great stuff, nice work! :woot2:

 

[jro4566]

Cool!

 

[chev454ls]

Man, with 430 hp, it should run 0-60 in about 5 seconds, maybe lower. Me likey!

 

[TaHoE]

I think around 5-seconds sound resonable. I couldn't catch what he said about RWD vs AWD, but I am willing to bet it will be RWD with optional AWD...he also stated that the Blue on the STS was the best Blue GM has produced in 5 years...

 

[nsap]

Originally posted by TaHoE@Apr 10 2004, 09:37 PM
I think around 5-seconds sound resonable. I couldn't catch what he said about RWD vs AWD, but I am willing to bet it will be RWD with optional AWD...he also stated that the Blue on the STS was the best Blue GM has produced in 5 years...

I agree on that Blue! Its beautiful!!!!! :lol:

 

[dreadnaught1181]

Not even the "golden age" of American muscle had this many high-powered cars running around. What does this make, 20 vehicles in the U.S. market for under $100K that have more than 400 hp. I mean DAMN!

 

[johnd89]

wow, those are great news!
good work!
(I keep my fingers crossed for the 12-hehe-)

 

[3eb]

yeah the insurance companies are gonna kill all of our fun pretty soon though....

 

[awalbert88]

I wouldn't worry about the insurance companies killing this. It's definately going to be a very expensive vehicle.

However... if this motor ends up being as bullet-proof as the Cobra motors, and offered in AWD, then you're going to find this to be one of the most bad-*** luxury cars on the road.

The aerodynamics, however, concern me. Rear-end lift over 130mph w/o the spoiler? I'm glad they offer the functional spoiler to keep it stable, but this could be an issue if Caddy wants to seriously attack the European market. There, one of the real tests of a luxury car is to see how it likes running on the Autobahn, where very high speed driving is the norm.

 

[MCGARRETT]

What about the SRX-V? , I had heard that was the next vehicle to get the V treatment.



0-60 under 6? I read thats what the current RWD STS V8 will do, I have read on other locations on this site that the new STS would do under 7 secs in the base 3.6 V6 STS, and under 6(about 5.8 secs) with the 4.6 Northstar V8...so the STS-V should in reality run 0-60 way under 6, probably close to 5 flat, if not less.

Also, why no 6 speed in the STS-V, it really should have one.

 

[johnd89]

Originally posted by awalbert88@Apr 11 2004, 04:01 PM
The aerodynamics, however, concern me. Rear-end lift over 130mph w/o the spoiler? I'm glad they offer the functional spoiler to keep it stable, but this could be an issue if Caddy wants to seriously attack the European market. There, one of the real tests of a luxury car is to see how it likes running on the Autobahn, where very high speed driving is the norm.

get a thirdgen bird if you want an aerodynamic, stable car:
Kugel bird
-hehe-

About this "problem", well, any car have it, at least they have the guts to admit it... in other words, they could have simply said: "the spoiler is functional", wich is GOOD design. if that was the case you would have still be concerned?

 

[awalbert88]

Originally posted by johnd89+Apr 11 2004, 03:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johnd89 @ Apr 11 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-awalbert88@Apr 11 2004, 04:01 PM
The aerodynamics, however, concern me.  Rear-end lift over 130mph w/o the spoiler?  I'm glad they offer the functional spoiler to keep it stable, but this could be an issue if Caddy wants to seriously attack the European market.  There, one of the real tests of a luxury car is to see how it likes running on the Autobahn, where very high speed driving is the norm.

get a thirdgen bird if you want an aerodynamic, stable car:
Kugel bird
-hehe-

About this "problem", well, any car have it, at least they have the guts to admit it... in other words, they could have simply said: "the spoiler is functional", wich is GOOD design. if that was the case you would have still be concerned? [/b][/quote]
Uhm, the Audi and MB vehicles that the STS-V will be competing with are designed with high-speed driving in mind, and are quite stable at speeds of up to 150 and beyond. It may be that the STS-V is not all that unstable at those speeds in fact, but until someone from the press actually tests one out like that, we won't know. I hope it's only a minor thing they encountered and not something of more serious concern.

 

[TaHoE]

Originally posted by MCGARRETT@Apr 11 2004, 02:40 PM
What about the SRX-V? , I had heard that was the next vehicle to get the V treatment.



0-60 under 6? I read thats what the current RWD STS V8 will do, I have read on other locations on this site that the new STS would do under 7 secs in the base 3.6 V6 STS, and under 6(about 5.8 secs) with the 4.6 Northstar V8...so the STS-V should in reality run 0-60 way under 6, probably close to 5 flat, if not less.

Also, why no 6 speed in the STS-V, it really should have one.

GUYS GUYS, READ THE TITLES...0-6o in under 6 is under the REGULAR STS, the STS-V will likely do it in the low 4s seeing that the CTS-V does it in 4.6.

 

[rodd62]

not to get off topic, but has there been any test (non-gm) that have gotten the cts-v to 60 in 4.6...cuz motortrend was the only one i read and they got 5.1. i know the acticle said they had problems with wheel hop and sorts tho.

 

[johnd89]

"Uhm, the Audi and MB vehicles that the STS-V will be competing with are designed with high-speed driving in mind, and are quite stable at speeds of up to 150 and beyond. It may be that the STS-V is not all that unstable at those speeds in fact, but until someone from the press actually tests one out like that, we won't know. I hope it's only a minor thing they encountered and not something of more serious concern."

Personally I have no ideea how stable exactly is a mb or audi or bmw, because I never tested one (especially not in germany at 150+ speeds). I simply can't see what's the problem since they adressed it allready with the spoiler?!?

 

[mgescuro]

<_<
Sorry... am I the only one that thinks that 430 HP for the STS-V is insufficient, given the competition?? Which are all in the high 400's, if not 500??!?!

 

[AMcA]

Originally posted by nsap+Apr 11 2004, 03:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nsap @ Apr 11 2004, 03:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TaHoE@Apr 10 2004, 09:37 PM
I think around 5-seconds sound resonable.  I couldn't catch what he said about RWD vs AWD, but I am willing to bet it will be RWD with optional AWD...he also stated that the Blue on the STS was the best Blue GM has produced in 5 years...

I agree on that Blue! Its beautiful!!!!! :lol: [/b][/quote]
I gree totally - they f'd up by introducing the car in silver. In silver, all the contours disappeared. Looked like the nose, which is quite dramatically formed, was dead flat & boring.

 

[mgescuro]

Ok... so taking a look at the XLR.....

Would there be 3 versions of the XLR?

XLR V8.... XLR V12 .... XLR-V V8-SC

That's the way Mercedes runs it. SL500, SL600, and SL55.

Personally... I think the V8-SC needs more than 430 HP. It needs 480 at least!!!!! The AMG's and the RS's are already in that range, and the M will be at 500. In the all important, "my HP" is bigger than "Your HP".... STS just needs more.

 

[darrelld]

Originally posted by rodd62@Apr 11 2004, 10:02 PM
not to get off topic, but has there been any test (non-gm) that have gotten the cts-v to 60 in 4.6...cuz motortrend was the only one i read and they got 5.1. i know the acticle said they had problems with wheel hop and sorts tho.

Some actual V owners have posted track times here;
http://forums.roadfly.org/cadillac/forums/.../4951360-1.html