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Great write up. I was thinking about getting one this last spring, but just felt the styling is getting a little dated IMO.

Can't wait for GM to come out with the next gen- I will be waiting at the dealer for one!
 
The opening pic of the Volt in front of the substation is just awesome!
 
I expect to have a brand new 2014 Volt in my driveway by month's end. Can't wait!!
 
the lack of 5th seat i am sure is costing some sales. hopefully they correct that on the next generation. i have not been in the back of a volt to really look at it. but when i was a kid, RWD cars had a hump in the middle of the floor of the backseat. and we just spread our legs if we sad in the middle
I'd say the rear legroom is the more important factor to consider. Sitting in back, there's no doubt it's a compact.
 
Great write-up Tahoe. It is always great to see these first hand owners accounts. They are so much more than the 1-2 week tests. I'm glad you really enjoy your Volt. I would love something that I could run around town to get good mileage, but our situation (5200ft, cold/snow, mountains) just is not condusive to a vehicle like that.

Someday I will have something with better mileage, for my "town" car. Payson is not large, so stopping and going very short distances all the time is just murder on mileage.

I hope to read more good reports on it, in the future !!

Thanks
 
I would love something that I could run around town to get good mileage, but our situation (5200ft, cold/snow, mountains) just is not condusive to a vehicle like that.

Someday I will have something with better mileage, for my "town" car. Payson is not large, so stopping and going very short distances all the time is just murder on mileage.

I hope to read more good reports on it, in the future !!

Thanks
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The environment you describe is exactly ideal for Volts - they're great in hills, leave the trans in low up to 50mph and you will get great regen which will run the car for eons. And same around town, where trickling on overrun and braking will keep it charged. The torque from the motor is like the reverse of turbo-lag, it's almost more than instantaneous, but extremely smooth.

The really good thing is, it's a high-quality thing in general, with an excellent interior/seats. And, more like a strong V6 when you sink the welly.

I had it in extreme heat last year, and constant aircon use didn't make much difference in mileage around town. That's it's forte.

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This is in 42 C heat - that's about 110 deg. F and it was flawless for the whole week, when a petrol car would be starting to get sluggish. Because of no heat generator running continuously under the bonnet especially when stopped, it also stays a lot cooler, inside and out.

This is from an Australian - I wouldn't own a US spec Cruze, Malibu or Impala after seeing them close up last year - the Volt is extremely special, not perfect but brilliant and the best savings, even running on gasoline, are to be had around town. I'm considering getting one - even first gen. It's least-economical on the open highway, but even there it is far from bad. Plus - the steps they took to keep the battery pack alive means they could almost be immortal.

Holden version
 
Excellent long term review on a very cool car.

Thanks for posting up. I enjoyed the information
 
If we are going away from gasoline to another source a much better alternative that doesn't require so much technology therefore keeping costs down, & repairs aren't much different and that's NG. A source that is cheaper in the long run and probably just as green. America has a very large supply of natural gas and when a $15,000 battery no longer holds a charge what then? Nobody brings that part up. There's the problem of the chicken/egg issue of availability that stands in the way but it's being expanded anyway as everything from trains, ships, to tractor trailers are converting to a NG source. GM will have an Impala next year that runs on both gas & and well gas. It's roughly $1.80 vs. $3.69 and NG burns very clean. There's not a whole different bunch of technology to repair as the difference is basically in the holding tank and the fuel delivery system. I drove a NG pickup on a farm in Kansas in very cold weather back in 1974. I was always amazed how compared with diesel farm equipment, and gasoline vehicles, my NG truck would start instantly in the coldest weather and lasted quite a bit too. We need to contain and control NG with holding tanks and expanded pipelines because as much as a hundred million dollars a year is wasted from burning "flares" and gas that isn't used and mixes with the atmosphere. Fuel cell , electric, diesel, are not as available or require much more technology than NG conversion of the internal combustion engine. Electric acceptance is probably only because it's easily available but a fuel source, as even NG produces the electricity. I would like to buy a Silverado & an Impala both with the dual source option ,find a local source and start a habit to fuel the. Ford F150 comes with a NG option as well. Dodge recently made a prototype Ram truck using a different way of storing the NG. I'm not sure exactly how but it involves using irregular shaped"tanks" maybe even in the frame, which helps with the problem of tank positioning space.
 
Very good review TaHoE. Not really what I'd want to drive daily, but would be interesting to run through the math considering my commute. Thanks for the great info.
 
If we are going away from gasoline to another source a much better alternative that doesn't require so much technology therefore keeping costs down, & repairs aren't much different and that's NG. A source that is cheaper in the long run and probably just as green. America has a very large supply of natural gas and when a $15,000 battery no longer holds a charge what then? Nobody brings that part up. There's the problem of the chicken/egg issue of availability that stands in the way but it's being expanded anyway as everything from trains, ships, to tractor trailers are converting to a NG source. GM will have an Impala next year that runs on both gas & and well gas. It's roughly $1.80 vs. $3.69 and NG burns very clean.
I'm fine with more NG cars coming out, like the dual fuel Impala supposed to hit the streets this year. But the anti-EV part of your argument is outdated and wrong.

First of all, electric cars in general make very efficient use of power. Here in NJ we run close to a 50/50 mix of nuclear and NG to make electricity, and an NG electric plant is much more efficient at extracting all the energy out of that fuel than an individual internal combustion engine like the Impala will have. So in a very real way, my Volt is already making optimal use of NG as a fuel, probably better than an NG-burning car. And your talk about batteries not holding a charge is a scare tactic that, contrary to your claim, is mentioned frequently by EV detractors. Problem is it's not much based in reality. So what happens when your expensive engine or transmission someday requires a major repair/replacement or is ready for the scrap heap? Everything has a lifespan. There are Volt owners now with over 100K miles on their cars who report no noticeable loss in the battery's ability to store energy (i.e. their EV range has not dropped.) And the battery is guaranteed by GM for 8 years / 100K miles. And it's not $15,000, probably closer to $8,000 to replace completely with a new one, and it's likely that A) that will go down substantially in coming years; B) refurbished batteries might also hit the market at much lower cost.

The bottom line is that the Volt has proven itself as a near-perfect step forward in efficient use of resources while also being a desirable car to drive, and it's a present reality now for over 3 years. Not some far off "now here's what we need to wait for before trading in the old Pontiac" sort of thing. Why tie myself to NG when the Volt can run on basically any fuel from now or in the future? Like I'm sure there are methane gas powerplants making electricity out of everything from banana peels to old socks decaying in a land fill--so my Volt can run on that garbage almost like the "Mr. Fusion" DeLorean from Back to the Future. It can also run on sunlight (and many do). And regardless of how the power is made, I can pull it right out of my wall at home in my spare time with virtually no effort at all, not go wandering around looking for an NG station, which like hydrogen will take many years to build up to anything resembling the gasoline infrastructure. And best of all my Volt also runs beautifully on that most readily supplied no-matter-where-you-go fuel known as gasoline. (And since the engine operation is always managed by the computer, it's so babied it will probably run near forever.)

Bottom line is that people are fence-sitting for no good reason at all. And posts like yours aren't helping.
 
the lack of 5th seat i am sure is costing some sales. hopefully they correct that on the next generation. i have not been in the back of a volt to really look at it. but when i was a kid, RWD cars had a hump in the middle of the floor of the backseat. and we just spread our legs if we sad in the middle
With the really cheap lease rates that have been offered in the past, I'm pretty sure I'd be leasing one if it had room for 5. Most of the time 4 seats is adequate for me, but with a family of 5, I have to at least have the ability to seat everyone in my car for the few times a year that it is a necessity. At the same time, I understand why this is only a 4 seater, and realize that it would significantly impact the design of the battery to have that 5th seat, so I don't expect it anytime soon.
 
Overall a decent review. Kudos to Tahoe.

Now, onto the withering criticisms.....
50-125 mph passing maneuver, skidpad lateral G force, parking lot burnout, and vertical rocket launch were all missing from the review.
There was no comparison against the F-150 or the Audi A8.
The article completely omitted the crewcab option and provided no details on the V12 turbo-diesel.

Finally, there were no salient quotes to honor john who no longer posts here,
hopelessly deluded said:
Measurable performance is not important, only that the vehicle be Toyota. That's all that counts, ever. The End.
Other than those few minor details, the article was right on target.
 
With the really cheap lease rates that have been offered in the past, I'm pretty sure I'd be leasing one if it had room for 5. Most of the time 4 seats is adequate for me, but with a family of 5, I have to at least have the ability to seat everyone in my car for the few times a year that it is a necessity. At the same time, I understand why this is only a 4 seater, and realize that it would significantly impact the design of the battery to have that 5th seat, so I don't expect it anytime soon.
I expect not only a 5 seat Volt but a CUV version as well, by 2017. We shall see, though, GM is very tight-lipped now about their future plans, and good for them!

Personally, I actually prefer the front and rear console, 4-seat style, which I think is sportier. Like the Panamera! I just wish it had a few inches more rear legroom, otherwise the Volt's dimensions are perfect for me.
 
good review of a UNIQUE car
IMHO the VOLT [b**will [/b]be like the Prius in 5-10 years when People understand it and the Price WITHOUT TAX REBATES is in range of a family sedan
for many years everybody complained the Prius NEVER pays for itself/ what if the traction Batts fail ETC
and a quick tour of the internet shows people have figured out the Prius Battery "issues" / how to rebuild them /"Hack" them

ONE "ISSUE" I ran into that would make it a NO-GO PERIOD is at-30 range not plugged in the car can NOT BE BOOSTED OR STARTED until plugged in (a re-volt equipped tow truck will get almost ANY other car started (A flat deck truck ride from the airport after X MAS does NOT go over well!!!) this happened to a co worker of mine this year and I experienced it trying to test drive a VOLT @ the dealer as they had unplugged it to move cars in/out of the show room and could NOT move it back with out a tow truck BUT Winnipeg/CDN prairies are a "harsh" climate for ANY CAR Period
 
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The environment you describe is exactly ideal for Volts - they're great in hills, leave the trans in low up to 50mph and you will get great regen which will run the car for eons. And same around town, where trickling on overrun and braking will keep it charged. The torque from the motor is like the reverse of turbo-lag, it's almost more than instantaneous, but extremely smooth.

The really good thing is, it's a high-quality thing in general, with an excellent interior/seats. And, more like a strong V6 when you sink the welly.

I had it in extreme heat last year, and constant aircon use didn't make much difference in mileage around town. That's it's forte.

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This is in 42 C heat - that's about 110 deg. F and it was flawless for the whole week, when a petrol car would be starting to get sluggish. Because of no heat generator running continuously under the bonnet especially when stopped, it also stays a lot cooler, inside and out.

This is from an Australian - I wouldn't own a US spec Cruze, Malibu or Impala after seeing them close up last year - the Volt is extremely special, not perfect but brilliant and the best savings, even running on gasoline, are to be had around town. I'm considering getting one - even first gen. It's least-economical on the open highway, but even there it is far from bad. Plus - the steps they took to keep the battery pack alive means they could almost be immortal.

Holden version
What would hurt the car for me isn't the mountains, but the cold. Anything battery powered sees a tremendous reduction in range when it is cold/very cold. I understand the torque can be a great advantage in the mountains, though. To the nearest big city is 80 miles. So, that run would really reduce economy.

Maybe in the future, GM will come up with a more efficient generator (gas engine) for the Volt.
 
What would hurt the car for me isn't the mountains, but the cold. Anything battery powered sees a tremendous reduction in range when it is cold/very cold. I understand the torque can be a great advantage in the mountains, though. To the nearest big city is 80 miles. So, that run would really reduce economy.

Maybe in the future, GM will come up with a more efficient generator (gas engine) for the Volt.
Maybe not so much as you think - not sure on the interlinking/overlapping but the two coolant systems of the ICE and battery pack would combine I would imagine to assist with heating like a conventional car. The battery pack has an ideal working temp of 50-90 deg F and is carefully warmed to that. As Zete said, on charge/remote start it is warmed to that (plus seats, steering wheel) and does not deplete range. In use, heat would be generated by the battery pack and/or ICE an used. Perhaps we need a Volt eng to chime in. So IOW, battery usage to warm the car might only occur if stationary in a blizzard, when your conventional ICE would be running under load to power your heater anyway even in a gasoline car with stop-start.

And my experience of the Volt at speed on the freeway is, yes it uses more fuel than in urban usage: but still 10-20% less than say a Cruze or similar to a diesel Cruze. Around town, in range-extender mode that difference blows out to 30-40%. So economy on the range-extender isn't wow-amazing on the freeway - merely, better than a 'normal' car: but it's still consistently better in any condition. If you drive 100mph absolutely everywhere, it might be lineball. Otherwise, the Volt is always in front, urban or freeway of a gasoline car in the Cruze/Focus class.

And in terms of equipment, sound system, fit, finish and comfort as a personal conveyance the Volt will blow virtually anything short of Cadillac level away. And even them, for silence and smoothness. It still stays with me - how smooth and silent progress, lack of ICE revving/gearchanges even in a smooth auto, lack of CVT whine; is that you keep thinking something is missing for the first few days.
 
Maybe not so much as you think - not sure on the interlinking/overlapping but the two coolant systems of the ICE and battery pack would combine I would imagine to assist with heating like a conventional car. The battery pack has an ideal working temp of 50-90 deg F and is carefully warmed to that. As Zete said, on charge/remote start it is warmed to that (plus seats, steering wheel) and does not deplete range. In use, heat would be generated by the battery pack and/or ICE an used. Perhaps we need a Volt eng to chime in. So IOW, battery usage to warm the car might only occur if stationary in a blizzard, when your conventional ICE would be running under load to power your heater anyway even in a gasoline car with stop-start.

And my experience of the Volt at speed on the freeway is, yes it uses more fuel than in urban usage: but still 10-20% less than say a Cruze or similar to a diesel Cruze. Around town, in range-extender mode that difference blows out to 30-40%. So economy on the range-extender isn't wow-amazing on the freeway - merely, better than a 'normal' car: but it's still consistently better in any condition. If you drive 100mph absolutely everywhere, it might be lineball. Otherwise, the Volt is always in front, urban or freeway of a gasoline car in the Cruze/Focus class.

And in terms of equipment, sound system, fit, finish and comfort as a personal conveyance the Volt will blow virtually anything short of Cadillac level away. And even them, for silence and smoothness. It still stays with me - how smooth and silent progress, lack of ICE revving/gearchanges even in a smooth auto, lack of CVT whine; is that you keep thinking something is missing for the first few days.
Yes it gets underway quickly with NO fuss, makes me laugh when I hear the racket in the next lane, along with the lurching / twisting body work, while in the Volt the acceleration is quite very quite and linear smooth.
It is a very quite car and noise sealed to a very high standard, chassi is very rigid thanks to the battery pack giving it a neutral RWD feel under a high number of conditions.
Very calming to drive while enjoying decent sound tracks.


The Volt for me is the perfect Urban car, nimble and sharp handling in traffic, in L you can almost drive just with accelerator pedal, does all I need like no other car out on todays market.

When I step back into my old ICE car (It's like going vintage).

I'm really looking forward to what the future in EV's will bring (4WD with millisecond torque vectoring control) once they are more common and more affordable.
They have proven they can do what no traditional mechanical car can do..... get you round corners like it was magic.
The Volt is an amazing taste for now and I know there will be more, I love plugging in every night and unplugging in the morning, takes me seconds while I walk around the car, in future charge pads for convenience or for the lazy will be an option.

Besides if you have solar panels like I have you literally can drive 72Km in summer - driving on SUNSINE that fell on your roof.
Can't beat that !
 
The biggest annoyance for me is actually the lack of a power adjustable seat. My wife sometimes drives the car and she's 9" shorter than I am.
 
The biggest annoyance for me is actually the lack of a power adjustable seat. My wife sometimes drives the car and she's 9" shorter than I am.
Not much advantage to having power seats unless it also has memory. Which I do wish it had. There have been many calls on the forum wish lists for power seats in the Volt, so I expect GM has received that message and will follow through. My guess is MY2015, when I'm expecting a refresh, and an all-new Volt for MY2017, but these are just educated guesses.
 
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