[C/K Man]

Here's what I have been hearing lately:
3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.
Next generation Colorado/Canyon to spawn an SUV to replace the Trail Blazer/Envoy.
Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.
Tahoe/Yukon to be phased out, no word on Escalade.
GM-Navistar deal on Topkick and Kodiak will eventually result in a wider variety of trucks for GMC/Chevy commercial dealers, including a new 4500 series to be shared with International.
More hybrid/flex fuel/diesel, but you knew that.

 

[bouda]

I hope the colorado/canyon doesn't get any bigger. When will we see the new model?

 

[Uzzy]

3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.

I thought that enigne was dead. What else do they use it in?

Next generation Colorado/Canyon to spawn an SUV to replace the Trail Blazer/Envoy.

That would be cool.

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

I doubt it would be a whole new generation, necessitating the GMT1000 name. More like an MCE.

Tahoe/Yukon to be phased out, no word on Escalade.

I really hope not and I doubt it.

What about a hybrid Denali XT? :dro: I still want one BAD! :dro:

 

[ChevyHDGert]

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

GM C3XX...not GMT 1000

Link

 

[FenwickHockey65]

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

 

[NfamousZ24]

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

The fact that it has been said they might move them to Unit body and we already have the Lambda's that size. They will just keep the Suburban on the GMT900.

But yeah that is why it is called rumors.

 

[nailhead425]

3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.

Certainly anything is possible, but I'm not sure there is much gain in fuel economy. Certainly not enough to offset the significantly less robust engine design.

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

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MCE? Seems too soon for a full redesign.

 

[member12]

Maybe they will give it a significant sheetmetal re-do, six speed transmissions, more powerful engines, and an updated frame....much like Ford is doing to the current F150.

So that more than an MCE, but not quite a completely new truck. I'd hope they at least keep the powertrains updated.

The fact that it has been said they might move them to Unit body and we already have the Lambda's that size. They will just keep the Suburban on the GMT900.

But yeah that is why it is called rumors.

GM might cut production, but the Tahoe and Suburban are here to stay.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.

The lambdas are going to steal their sales from the soccer moms...but you still have people that want or need a real SUV, and GM will have to keep them in mind when designing new trucks.

 

[LAPTOP GAMER]

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

Thy might suffer a big sales drop, but not go out of production.

 

[LAPTOP GAMER]

Maybe they will give it a significant sheetmetal re-do, six speed transmissions, more powerful engines, and an updated frame....much like Ford is doing to the current F150.

So that more than an MCE, but not quite a completely new truck. I'd hope they at least keep the powertrains updated.



GM might cut production, but the Tahoe and Suburban are here to stay.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.

The lambdas are going to steal their sales from the soccer moms...but you still have people that want or need a real SUV, and GM will have to keep them in mind when designing new trucks.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

 

[DuSpinnst]

Colorado et al are GMT-700. The H4 will also be on this platform.

GMT-900 runs until 2012 (2013 is the new trucks), see UAW contract.

 

[member12]

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

I have a hard time visualizing a Range Rover off road, but it does happen.

 

[Uzzy]

I have a hard time visualizing a Range Rover off road, but it does happen.

The entire Land Rover line up was originally intended to be off-road. They were Europe's Jeep in a way. They evolved into something more luxurious. The Escalade is the exact ooposite of that.

 

[Canyonaro]

Some of that is interesting to say the least, some seems plain wrong but what do I know.

 

[titanguy]

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

I have a hard time visualizing a "Z-71 off road" truck off road. With less than 10 inches of ground clearance, pathetic approach and departure angles and that ridiculous in no way does it belong on a truck plastic airdam. They need to build a real truck for real truck guys. They have every configuration possible except for an off road capable model.
First they need a IFS version like the Nissan Titan for those who need versatility. 11 inches of clearance with 285's from the factory. They could even go a little larger on the tire. Better approach and departure angles.(The Titan's approach angle is TWICE what a four wheel drive GM is right now) Get rid of the air dam and put a skidplate on the front.
Then for those that are really hardcore make a Power Wagon competitor that is not quite so bulky. Maybe a half ton size with 3/4 ton running gear with the 6.2 and baby DMAX as an option. That of course would require GM to use a SFA which they obviously do not have in their lineup. The virtues of a SFA for a truck, especially a heavy duty, are well known.
This is my wish list for GM. I think there are plenty of other people out there like me who are not casual truck owners. We want a truck, not a Ridgeline, not a Denali XT, but a real, bonafide truck.

 

[Uzzy]

I think there are plenty of other people out there like me who are not casual truck owners. We want a truck, not a Ridgeline, not a Denali XT, but a real, bonafide truck.

Perhaps there is, but I'd trade my Z-71 for a Denali XT in a heart beat! :yup:

 

[GMCdriver]

Perhaps there is, but I'd trade my Z-71 for a Denali XT in a heart beat! :yup:

If the Denali XT makes a showing it has a very good chance of replaceing my Canyon Z71.

 

[FenwickHockey65]

Toned down Denali XT concept will replace my Sonoma.

 

[titanguy]

Perhaps there is, but I'd trade my Z-71 for a Denali XT in a heart beat! :yup:

I didn't mean to say that the Denali XT is not a cool truck. Based on the pictures I have seen this truck looks great and could be a very significant vehicle for GMC.
My point is developing a whole new vehicle like this costs more money than upgrading the off road ability of the new GM trucks or adding SFA's to the Heavy Duty trucks. Many HD buyers will not buy a truck with IFS period.
If buyers can get a Denali XT why can't I get a truck that I can actually take off the pavement? Isn't that what trucks are made for? It almost seems like GM has something against guys who need more space than a Jeep can offer, but also still want to have a little fun getting to the next fishing hole. Down with the plastic air dam!!!

 

[GMCdriver]

I didn't mean to say that the Denali XT is not a cool truck. Based on the pictures I have seen this truck looks great and could be a very significant vehicle for GMC.
My point is developing a whole new vehicle like this costs more money than upgrading the off road ability of the new GM trucks or adding SFA's to the Heavy Duty trucks. Many HD buyers will not buy a truck with IFS period.
If buyers can get a Denali XT why can't I get a truck that I can actually take off the pavement? Isn't that what trucks are made for? It almost seems like GM has something against guys who need more space than a Jeep can offer, but also still want to have a little fun getting to the next fishing hole. Down with the plastic air dam!!!

You do realize, the "removable air dam" is removable.
It clips right off when you are wanting to open up the approach angles and clips right back on when you want better engine cooling, better on road handleing and better MPG.

I realize there are people who won't buy a HD truck with an IFS but please keep in mind, there are people who will becaue they don't care one way or another and there are people who will buy it because they wouldn't buy a truck with a SFA. Just because one group of buyers exists doesn't mean that all other groups of buyers are wrong or irrelivant.