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Originally posted by laserwizard@Jun 25 2004, 02:07 PM
Good decision by GM. American didn't like the Caterra which is essentially the same product (with different engines) and American isn't going goat wild with the GTO either. GM needs to be serious with its platforms and have something that isn't just a warmed up, tired European/Aussie model with some new headlamps, grill, and tail lights. It is obvious that in these transplants GM is unwilling to spend a dime on different sheet metal to make them look substantively different, so GM, had it introduced the Caprice, would have looked stupid peddling a five year old Cadillac with a different grill which was really then a tired five year old Eurocentric piece of garbage.
I would like for you to explain what the public has to do with a bunch of cars that the police would drive? The public will have very little to do with this car.
I also think this is good, but for totaly different reasons that Lazer has blurted out.
Why does GM NEED to make a cop car? Im sure cops would love it, but to be just a fleet factory? Why not wait for Zeta to come out.

and its not the Omgea chassis Lazer. Its very different from Omega. Yeah, its based off Omega, but the chassis has been morphed and evolved into the VX chassis. There is very little that will trasfer from one to the other. The GTO has very little to do with this car.
And this Eurocentric piece of garbage is 100000x better then anything Ford has to offer. A Ford fan like yourself should never talk about old chassis as Ford is the KING of the old mothball platforms.
 

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Originally posted by Lichtronamo@Jun 25 2004, 04:33 PM
This might be a dumb question, but why not just dig out the tooling for the old Caprice and start making it again? Ford's plan has been rumored to be putting the Crown Vic into "fleet only" service for some time now.
Body on Frame cars are loooooooooong gone. No need to bring it back when there is a new RWD chassis right around the corner.
 

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Originally posted by Lichtronamo+Jun 25 2004, 07:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lichtronamo @ Jun 25 2004, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 11:48 AM
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@Jun 25 2004, 04:33 PM
This might be a dumb question, but why not just dig out the tooling for the old Caprice and start making it again?  Ford's plan has been rumored to be putting the Crown Vic into "fleet only" service for some time now.

Body on Frame cars are loooooooooong gone. No need to bring it back when there is a new RWD chassis right around the corner.
So are pushrods, but that hasn't stopped GM yet. Besides, with more than 50% of new sales as trucks and most trucks being body on frame, they are long from long gonnnnnneeeeee... [/b][/quote]
No, push rods are still relevant as they in some cases much better then the older OHC design(yeah, I said older). The only thing that makes OHC "new" is VVT or VTEC, in which that advantage is going away very soon.
Body on frame cars, not trucks as we are talking about cars here, had there day. There is no need to bring back the old Caprice cars. We have a brand new, pretty cheap RWD chassis already set for production. By the time they retool the factory with all the brand new equipment, its gunna be 06 and Zeta will already be on its way to the showrooms.

The Crown Vic's tooling has been paid for 20 times over. Its chassis has been around for some 35 years. Everything out there, FWD or RWD outclassis it in just about everything. All someone had to do was make a new RWD chassis, and Ford would either have to drop the CV or make a new one.
 
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