Bullsh!t.
GM confirms new V8 coupe for Holden, says 'Chevrolet SS' replacement not a priority
New Chevrolet SS not a priority
Stephen Ottley
13 January 2015
www.drive.com.au
Australian-made sports sedan faces uncertain future in America.
Chevrolet admits any replacement for the Holden Commodore-based SS sports sedan is at the bottom of its priority least, leaving the future of the car uncertain.
General Motors head designer Ed Welburn told Australian media at the 2015 Detroit motor show that any plans for a replacement aren't a priority despite the impending demise of Commodore production in Australia in 2017.
"We keep toying with [a new SS model]," Welburn said.
"I don't know. Right now there are so many vehicles that seem to take priority over doing that right now. There is interest there, but the work that we need to do on our mid-size vehicles, next generation full-size trucks, SUVs in a number of categories seem to be taking priority; at least at the moment.
"The studios are just absolutely jammed with work… That is kind of on this long list of things to do, but when can you get to it?"
Welburn admitted that the car is only a niche offering in the US, selling only a few thousand per year, meaning it doesn't attract significant attention despite it being used as Chevy's front line contender in the popular Nascar series.
"It really is [a niche car]," Welburn admitted.
"It's really quiet, I don't hear a lot about it. Those who know about it are really passionate about it, but I don't hear a lot about it."
Mark Reuss, GM head of global product development, wasn't talking about the SS when discussing the brand's future.
"We're not going to announce that today," Reuss said.
The former Holden boss was one of the car's biggest advocates when importing it to the US, and even suggested if it was successful enough it could have saved local manufacturing.
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Confirmed: Holden's next Monaro
Stephen Ottley
13 January 2015
www.drive.com.au
GM International boss confirms spiritual successor to Holden's iconic V8 coupe is coming.
Holden will have a new V8-powered, two-door sports car as its hero model after the locally-built Commodore is pensioned off in 2017.
General Motors International boss Stefan Jacoby has confirmed the top-secret new car in an interview with Australian media in Detroit today, but kept any further details under wraps
"We will bring a Holden sports car in the future, in the near future," Jacoby revealed.
But the German, who oversees General Motors operations throughout Asia-Pacific, Europe and the Middle East, wouldn't reveal exactly which model it will be.
Asked if it will be an existing model in GM's portfolio – which includes the Camaro and Corvette – Jacoby was non-committal.
"No, maybe something else," he said.
"It will be something which truly fits the requirement of a true Holden sports car."
He went on to add that it will "most likely" have a V8 engine and will arrive after the Elizabeth manufacturing plant closes in 2017. While a V8-powered two-door coupe follows the formula set by the iconic Monaro, Jacoby ruled out reviving the nameplate.
While Jacoby's comments about a 'current model' rule out the existing Camaro and Corvette models, both are due for replacement in the near future. The Camaro is expected to sit on a new platform shared with the Cadillac ATS and debut in 2016 in the US.
Chevrolet has also been caught testing a mid-engined replacement for the current Corvette – using a Holden Ute body for the test mule - that isn't expected to be in showrooms before 2018.
One car Jacoby did rule out was a production version of the Opel Monza concept which debuted at the 2013 Geneva motor show.
Whatever the car becomes, it will likely go head-to-head with the Ford Mustang that arrives in Australian showrooms from later this year - continuining the Ford-versus-Holden rivalry that has divided local performance car fans for decades. It could also form the basis of Holden's next-generation V8 Supercar racer.
Beyond the top-secret Monaro replacement, GM also revealed at the 2014 Detroit motor show that it plans to build more of its new models in both left- and right-hand drive, opening up greater opportunities for Holden to source more products from with the GM network after it ceases local manufacturing by the end of 2017.
GM President Dan Ammann reiterated that commitment prior to Jacoby's announcement, paving the way for the next-generation Camaro to join the Holden range in one form or another.
"It's getting closer for sure," Ammann said, when asked how long it would take for the right-hand drive cars to come to Australia.
"It really depends by product line and architecture," he explained. "It's a decision that, as you'd expect, with each generation of architecture you make that decision, then once you make that decision you wait for it to come [again]. Without getting specific it's something a lot of us sat down around a table.
"What we used to do was program by program you'd do the math and never make it work. Inevitably the financials get tight and you decide we'll save a bit of money by not doing that. If you keep incrementalizing [sic] you don't make the right decision. If we just make a strategic call that we're doing this then there is no more debate."
Ammann said the move to offer more right-hand drive models is a global strategy to overcome the financial problems the company has faced in the past getting the business case to work.
"It actually does get cheaper if you do it once and you do it in the beginning and you don't think about it each time. If you just look at the volumes you'll never really [do it] we just kind of have to say 'we're a global company' we're doing it."
However, he did concede some low-volume models would likely remain left-hand drive only, including full-size pick-up trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado.
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Stephen Ottley
13 January 2015
www.drive.com.au
Australian-made sports sedan faces uncertain future in America.
Chevrolet admits any replacement for the Holden Commodore-based SS sports sedan is at the bottom of its priority least, leaving the future of the car uncertain.
General Motors head designer Ed Welburn told Australian media at the 2015 Detroit motor show that any plans for a replacement aren't a priority despite the impending demise of Commodore production in Australia in 2017.
"We keep toying with [a new SS model]," Welburn said.
"I don't know. Right now there are so many vehicles that seem to take priority over doing that right now. There is interest there, but the work that we need to do on our mid-size vehicles, next generation full-size trucks, SUVs in a number of categories seem to be taking priority; at least at the moment.
"The studios are just absolutely jammed with work… That is kind of on this long list of things to do, but when can you get to it?"
Welburn admitted that the car is only a niche offering in the US, selling only a few thousand per year, meaning it doesn't attract significant attention despite it being used as Chevy's front line contender in the popular Nascar series.
"It really is [a niche car]," Welburn admitted.
"It's really quiet, I don't hear a lot about it. Those who know about it are really passionate about it, but I don't hear a lot about it."
Mark Reuss, GM head of global product development, wasn't talking about the SS when discussing the brand's future.
"We're not going to announce that today," Reuss said.
The former Holden boss was one of the car's biggest advocates when importing it to the US, and even suggested if it was successful enough it could have saved local manufacturing.
Continue here
Confirmed: Holden's next Monaro
Stephen Ottley
13 January 2015
www.drive.com.au
GM International boss confirms spiritual successor to Holden's iconic V8 coupe is coming.
Holden will have a new V8-powered, two-door sports car as its hero model after the locally-built Commodore is pensioned off in 2017.
General Motors International boss Stefan Jacoby has confirmed the top-secret new car in an interview with Australian media in Detroit today, but kept any further details under wraps
"We will bring a Holden sports car in the future, in the near future," Jacoby revealed.
But the German, who oversees General Motors operations throughout Asia-Pacific, Europe and the Middle East, wouldn't reveal exactly which model it will be.
Asked if it will be an existing model in GM's portfolio – which includes the Camaro and Corvette – Jacoby was non-committal.
"No, maybe something else," he said.
"It will be something which truly fits the requirement of a true Holden sports car."
He went on to add that it will "most likely" have a V8 engine and will arrive after the Elizabeth manufacturing plant closes in 2017. While a V8-powered two-door coupe follows the formula set by the iconic Monaro, Jacoby ruled out reviving the nameplate.
While Jacoby's comments about a 'current model' rule out the existing Camaro and Corvette models, both are due for replacement in the near future. The Camaro is expected to sit on a new platform shared with the Cadillac ATS and debut in 2016 in the US.
Chevrolet has also been caught testing a mid-engined replacement for the current Corvette – using a Holden Ute body for the test mule - that isn't expected to be in showrooms before 2018.
One car Jacoby did rule out was a production version of the Opel Monza concept which debuted at the 2013 Geneva motor show.
Whatever the car becomes, it will likely go head-to-head with the Ford Mustang that arrives in Australian showrooms from later this year - continuining the Ford-versus-Holden rivalry that has divided local performance car fans for decades. It could also form the basis of Holden's next-generation V8 Supercar racer.
Beyond the top-secret Monaro replacement, GM also revealed at the 2014 Detroit motor show that it plans to build more of its new models in both left- and right-hand drive, opening up greater opportunities for Holden to source more products from with the GM network after it ceases local manufacturing by the end of 2017.
GM President Dan Ammann reiterated that commitment prior to Jacoby's announcement, paving the way for the next-generation Camaro to join the Holden range in one form or another.
"It's getting closer for sure," Ammann said, when asked how long it would take for the right-hand drive cars to come to Australia.
"It really depends by product line and architecture," he explained. "It's a decision that, as you'd expect, with each generation of architecture you make that decision, then once you make that decision you wait for it to come [again]. Without getting specific it's something a lot of us sat down around a table.
"What we used to do was program by program you'd do the math and never make it work. Inevitably the financials get tight and you decide we'll save a bit of money by not doing that. If you keep incrementalizing [sic] you don't make the right decision. If we just make a strategic call that we're doing this then there is no more debate."
Ammann said the move to offer more right-hand drive models is a global strategy to overcome the financial problems the company has faced in the past getting the business case to work.
"It actually does get cheaper if you do it once and you do it in the beginning and you don't think about it each time. If you just look at the volumes you'll never really [do it] we just kind of have to say 'we're a global company' we're doing it."
However, he did concede some low-volume models would likely remain left-hand drive only, including full-size pick-up trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado.
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Could the Camaro become (apologies to purists for the suggestion) the Monaro?
Holden Camaro? Not a chance. They will never rebadge the Chevrolet Camaro, even in Australia.
They don't have a clue what they are doing
One week it's a never ever another V8
Then next week it's a rebadged Camaro
Week after that it's a Chev Camaro imported through HSV dealers
One Month later its a Holden Monaro but actually a Camaro
They seem to be responding to negative Facebook posts and trying to reassure fans they will be able to buy a V8 in the future
I reckon its all bullsh!t and all the fun stuff dies end of 2017
One week it's a never ever another V8
Then next week it's a rebadged Camaro
Week after that it's a Chev Camaro imported through HSV dealers
One Month later its a Holden Monaro but actually a Camaro
They seem to be responding to negative Facebook posts and trying to reassure fans they will be able to buy a V8 in the future
I reckon its all bullsh!t and all the fun stuff dies end of 2017
I thought I read the Camaro is confirmed NOT RHD and maybe the "monaro" project if it is true will be a "globally acceptable" design leaving the Camaro to be "all American"
If you read it properly nothing was confirmed at all, all he said was
"We will bring a Holden sports car in the future, in the near future," Jacoby revealed.
But the German, who oversees General Motors operations throughout Asia-Pacific, Europe and the Middle East, wouldn't reveal exactly which model it will be.
Asked if it will be an existing model in GM's portfolio – which includes the Camaro and Corvette – Jacoby was non-committal.
"No, maybe something else," he said.
"It will be something which truly fits the requirement of a true Holden sports car."
Not even confirmed to have a V8, typical journo crap trying to dig up readership.
"We will bring a Holden sports car in the future, in the near future," Jacoby revealed.
But the German, who oversees General Motors operations throughout Asia-Pacific, Europe and the Middle East, wouldn't reveal exactly which model it will be.
Asked if it will be an existing model in GM's portfolio – which includes the Camaro and Corvette – Jacoby was non-committal.
"No, maybe something else," he said.
"It will be something which truly fits the requirement of a true Holden sports car."
Not even confirmed to have a V8, typical journo crap trying to dig up readership.
The signals out of GM USA seem as confused as the new Chevy Volt 2016 - Front and rear Honda, sides from Mazda, lower air dam crap copy from Fords Worst bling book = designed by the new GM committee me thinks.
New GM concept EV only Bolt has some design but if it goes like Volt 2 I fear GM are really loosing the plot from a leader of desirable car maker to only what an American with bland or poor fashion sense would actually dare buy.
Where are the dedicated car enthusiast guys ?
Oh that's right Bob Lutz is retired and if they consult him they are obviously not listening and know better !
New GM concept EV only Bolt has some design but if it goes like Volt 2 I fear GM are really loosing the plot from a leader of desirable car maker to only what an American with bland or poor fashion sense would actually dare buy.
Where are the dedicated car enthusiast guys ?
Oh that's right Bob Lutz is retired and if they consult him they are obviously not listening and know better !
I would be on a face lifted Camaro.
Well apparently it's corvette.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/i...y-closes-in-2017/story-fnjwucvh-1227183537508
http://www.news.com.au/technology/i...y-closes-in-2017/story-fnjwucvh-1227183537508
Ironic, since the current Camaro was engineered, designed, and tested in Australia. But of course, as LHD only.Holden Camaro? Not a chance. They will never rebadge the Chevrolet Camaro, even in Australia.
Opel Monza.If you read it properly nothing was confirmed at all...
Not even confirmed to have a V8, typical journo crap trying to dig up readership.
It was designed by Holden also as RHD. It was 100% production ready, less released part numbers and (real life) crash test.Ironic, since the current Camaro was engineered, designed, and tested in Australia. But of course, as LHD only.
Hey GM ... Learn how to multi-task !welburn said.
"i don't know. Right now there are so many vehicles that seem to take priority over doing that right now
I think it has more to do with being constrained by how many people they have working on all of these projects.Hey GM ... Learn how to multi-task !
Having a V8 in the line up is a start, but as everyone but GM can see, once local manufacturing goes so do almost all the sales. Commodore makes up close to 1/3 of Holden sales, and a lot Holden customers buy on the basis that the brand is local. Once the closure is made fully aware to the public, any perceptions of loyalty will die away. I wish GM absolutely no luck whatsoever in this country because they simply are not trying hard enough to earn any sales.
The one positive comment from Ed Welburn is
It seems like to the new (public) wrinkle is the (future) Buick Avenir. It seems like a good bet that Holden is slated to get their own version as a replacement for the Commodore/Caprice, there just might be a debate going on about a Chevrolet version.
In addition - V8 Holden, HSV models part of top secret GM project (January 15, 2014)
He's usually very coy about future vehicles, and for him to talk this "openly" means there is something currently being worked on."We keep toying with [a new SS model]," Welburn said.
It seems like to the new (public) wrinkle is the (future) Buick Avenir. It seems like a good bet that Holden is slated to get their own version as a replacement for the Commodore/Caprice, there just might be a debate going on about a Chevrolet version.
In addition - V8 Holden, HSV models part of top secret GM project (January 15, 2014)
Opel will not bring bigger models than Insignia to market. Only "Monza" in form of Insignia SUV, and maybe some Insignia 4door coupe to compete with Volkswagen CC.Opel Monza.
KTN said few days ago that there will not be any Opels soon in class bigger than Insignia.
With the apparent synching up of Buick, Holden, (and Opel) - What if the mystery coupe is related to the rumored Buick GN/GNX, and Holden will get a version of that car?General Motors International boss Stefan Jacoby has confirmed the top-secret new car in an interview with Australian media in Detroit today, but kept any further details under wraps
"We will bring a Holden sports car in the future, in the near future," Jacoby revealed.
Asked if it will be an existing model in GM's portfolio – which includes the Camaro and Corvette – Jacoby was non-committal.
"No, maybe something else," he said.
"It will be something which truly fits the requirement of a true Holden sports car."
He went on to add that it will "most likely" have a V8 engine and will arrive after the Elizabeth manufacturing plant closes in 2017.
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