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General Motors of Canada Ltd. workers in Oshawa, Ont., will be offered retirement incentives of as much as $120,000 and the company's new flexible manufacturing plant will begin producing front-wheel-drive vehicles alongside the rear-wheel-drive Camaro under a deal the Canadian Auto Workers union has struck with the auto maker.

Production of one front-wheel-drive vehicle will begin in 2010 and output of another in 2013 in addition to the Camaro and another rear-wheel-drive model, union officials said after concluding a deal that ends weeks of negotiations with GM and a bitter dispute over the company's plan to close its truck plant in Oshawa next year.

Skilled trades workers with 30 years experience will receive a $120,000 retirement incentive and a $35,000 voucher for a new GM vehicle. Production workers with 30 years seniority will be eligible for a $100,000 retirement incentive and the car voucher.

Workers at the low end of the seniority scale will also be eligible for retirement incentives. Production workers with less than three years on the job will receive a $37,500 payment – skilled trades employees will get $45,000 – and will be eligible for all benefits except for the company's dental program for six months after they leave.

In addition, workers with between 26 and 30 years experience will be paid 65 per cent of their wages until they reach the 30-year level, as well as receive retirement incentives and the car voucher.

GM has signed letters promising to add new products to the new flexible assembly plant in Oshawa as well as extend production of the Chevrolet Impala at its existing Oshawa car plant for an addition year, to 2013.

The money for the buyouts will come from a special GM fund and not the company's supplementary unemployment benefits (SUB) fund, which also receives contributions from the union.

They will be made available to all 8,700 CAW members working at the three GM assembly plants in the city.

The union will drop the grievance it has filed over the closing of the truck plant scheduled for next year and agree to end a two-shift rotation at the truck plant as of Dec. 31, instead of insisting such an arrangement continue until the plant closes.

Production at the truck plant is scheduled to be reduced to one shift in September. The union insisted during contract negotiations in May that GM rotate the time off between two shifts rather than eliminating an entire shift.
 

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This is the same contract buyout (as expected) that the GM Transmission plant employees here in Windsor will be receiving....
 

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Geez... Gm wonders why they don't make money. If I was to get laid off from my company because of lower sales, I don't think I'd get $37k, and I have 10+years of service here.

And for all of our American friends, the $35k car voucher gets you Malibu LTZ type of car. No one is driving off in Caddys...
 

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More buyouts = more money GM spends on getting rid of overpriced workers and less on new products. Sigh. Think of all the money they could have saved if they didn't have to piss this bribe money at the CAW and UAW.

However, it's good to see GM get this behind them. They will emerge much more competitive as a result. I just hope their money holds out long enough to get them through this all.

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Geez... Gm wonders why they don't make money. If I was to get laid off from my company because of lower sales, I don't think I'd get $37k, and I have 10+years of service here.

And for all of our American friends, the $35k car voucher gets you Malibu LTZ type of car. No one is driving off in Caddys...
$35k voucher should get you into a CTS especially with the deals going on right now and the fact they probably get an employee discount.
 

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Think of how much they could have saved if it weren't for all those health care costs that have skyrocketed in America. What does GM have, hundred thousand retirees or something like that? That's a lot of money right there.
 

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Oh ya, still a good downpayment, I'm not complaining. I just wanted to make sure the facts were right around here
Not 100% on that...as far as I know, you CAN use it with either Option 1 or Option 2, BUT, it can not be used to finance a vehicle (ie, cash buy only)
 

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Think of how much they could have saved if it weren't for all those health care costs that have skyrocketed in America. What does GM have, hundred thousand retirees or something like that? That's a lot of money right there.
This is GM Canada and the health care was not as big as an issue as it was in US.
 

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- The Oshawa autoplex union workers have won many quality and production awards for their work over the years and in my opinion this retirement incentive and buyout program is the least the company can do to reward their workers for years and years of profits.

- It is indeed an impressive package......

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I worked for General Motors in Canada for thirty years, and I retired with a buy-out. I read most of the comments relating to CAW and UAW employees, and I must admit that people do not see what is really happening. If you went to Japan and took a picture of a city street, just how many American vehicles do you think you would see? My guess would be none. If you took a comparable picture on any American street the difference would be remarkable. Now, take into consideration that the Japanese products can be brought into the USA duty free, without any monetary penalty, and compare this to an American car being sold in Japan, the penalties and tariffs would choke a normal person. This is not Free Trade, and if there were a balance, those job cuts at General Motors would be turned around into a hiring spree. I don’t know of many people that would turn down one of those good jobs at an American Automotive plant either. The manufacturing base of the USA would not be in a free fall state; it would be healthy and thriving. I think we need to start looking at this situation by considering the root cause. Americans need to start supporting their own businesses, and start backing their own technical ability and future!

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More buyouts = more money GM spends on getting rid of overpriced workers and less on new products. Sigh. Think of all the money they could have saved if they didn't have to piss this bribe money at the CAW and UAW.

However, it's good to see GM get this behind them. They will emerge much more competitive as a result. I just hope their money holds out long enough to get them through this all.

Mark
I worked for General Motors in Canada for thirty years, and I retired with a buy-out. I read most of the comments relating to CAW and UAW employees, and I must admit that people do not see what is really happening. If you went to Japan and took a picture of a city street, just how many American vehicles do you think you would see? My guess would be none. If you took a comparable picture on any American street the difference would be remarkable. Now, take into consideration that the Japanese products can be brought into the USA duty free, without any monetary penalty, and compare this to an American car being sold in Japan, the penalties and tariffs would choke a normal person. This is not Free Trade, and if there were a balance, those job cuts at General Motors would be turned around into a hiring spree. I don’t know of many people that would turn down one of those good jobs at an American Automotive plant either. The manufacturing base of the USA would not be in a free fall state; it would be healthy and thriving. I think we need to start looking at this situation by considering the root cause. Americans need to start supporting their own businesses, and start backing their own technical ability and future!

Bob
 

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I worked for General Motors in Canada for thirty years, and I retired with a buy-out. I read most of the comments relating to CAW and UAW employees, and I must admit that people do not see what is really happening. If you went to Japan and took a picture of a city street, just how many American vehicles do you think you would see? My guess would be none. If you took a comparable picture on any American street the difference would be remarkable. Now, take into consideration that the Japanese products can be brought into the USA duty free, without any monetary penalty, and compare this to an American car being sold in Japan, the penalties and tariffs would choke a normal person. This is not Free Trade, and if there were a balance, those job cuts at General Motors would be turned around into a hiring spree. I don’t know of many people that would turn down one of those good jobs at an American Automotive plant either. The manufacturing base of the USA would not be in a free fall state; it would be healthy and thriving. I think we need to start looking at this situation by considering the root cause. Americans need to start supporting their own businesses, and start backing their own technical ability and future!

Bob
I am not sure what you consider a Buick in China, but that is the most successful brand there with last year beating an all time sales record for more than 1m vehicles sold by any manufacturer in China.
 

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I am not sure what you consider a Buick in China, but that is the most successful brand there with last year beating an all time sales record for more than 1m vehicles sold by any manufacturer in China.
Vehicles in China have to be produced in China, or they face serious tariffs upon import. That is why you see companies such as GM and VW and what not creating massive joint ventures in China. Some other manufacturers create car 'kits' and ship them to China for final assembly. So far, it seems as though they are doing a good job defending their industries. Buicks made in China are not subjected to, say, the tariffs of importing Trailblazers and Corvettes into Japan.

What I think 99coupe is trying to get at is equality at the border. Every North American vehicle entering eastern Asian countries faces these tariffs. Nearly any foreignly built car entering North America (other than, I believe, trucks over 3.0L, I think?) comes here without tariffs. They are very closed when it comes to importing vehicles.

Now, I wouldn't suggest forcing every company to build every car sold here at a facility here, but it should be 'forcefully encouraged' to do so. Say, 1 of every 3 vehicles sold in Canada or the USA, one must be built (either for NA sale or export)? Otherwise face tariffs. That way, we should be able to keep our manufacturing sector a bit stronger.
 
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