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^^^Why do you actually need that info on your phone?
It's not needed; I don't think RedSkyBlackDream suggested that it was a necessity for anyone.

Subscription services such as OnStar and HondaLink, especially phone app based services, are touted by automakers for enhancing convenience and safety. Consumers should investigate those claims thoroughly before signing up, and be aware that such services and the associated infrastructure come with serious vulnerabilities and risks. The infamous OnStar buffer overflow exploit circa 2010 is just one example.

GM Took 5 Years to Fix a Full-Takeover Hack in Millions of OnStar Cars
 

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It's not needed; I don't think RedBlackSkyDream suggested that it was a necessity for anyone.

Subscription services such as OnStar and HondaLink, especially phone app based services, are touted by automakers for enhancing convenience and safety. Consumers should investigate those claims thoroughly before signing up, and be aware that such services and the associated infrastructure come with serious vulnerabilities and risks. The infamous OnStar buffer overflow exploit circa 2010 is just one example.

GM Took 5 Years to Fix a Full-Takeover Hack in Millions of OnStar Cars
Wow or maybe it's Woe, that's actually quite frightening really.
 

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^^^Why do you actually need that info on your phone?
You don’t. It’s a HUGE waste of money unless you’re rich. I had it for free for a year maybe on my 2013 Denali. It was nice to be able to remote start from the app, or find my truck in a huge parking lot (I.e. football game), but there’s nothing you can’t live without. Certainly not worth anything close to $1500.
 

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It's not needed; I don't think RedBlackSkyDream suggested that it was a necessity for anyone.

Subscription services such as OnStar and HondaLink, especially phone app based services, are touted by automakers for enhancing convenience and safety. Consumers should investigate those claims thoroughly before signing up, and be aware that such services and the associated infrastructure come with serious vulnerabilities and risks. The infamous OnStar buffer overflow exploit circa 2010 is just one example.

GM Took 5 Years to Fix a Full-Takeover Hack in Millions of OnStar Cars
That literally has me about to delete HondaLink off of my phone now! I’m not subscribed any longer anyway!
 

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^^^Why do you actually need that info on your phone?
Uhh...so you don't run out of gas? So you know when to get O&F service? I suppose that could be useful if you reside in Selfiville and have little to no grasp of the real world. OTOH you could just drive it until the oil coagulates and turns your crankcase into a tar pit. Life is tough. And it's tougher when you're stupid.
 

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Good point tripowergto. So called "smartphones" are the worst offenders of any consumer product - even worse than OnStar and "connected cars" - when it comes to facilitating a surveillance and addiction-oriented society.

As Neanderthal mentioned in another thread, that's indicative of rapid societal decline.

My wife and I got rid of all of our "smartphones" a few years ago.
We know. Your smart phones told us. They were not happy that you did that. But that's OK. They've been replaced by much smaller trackers embedded in your
 
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