tgagneguam, i agree completely with everything you said. i really like bangals work, even though each piece takes a bit to fully grow on me, that is the sign of innovation i think. it takes a lot of guts to take such a successful brand and be extremely daring with the styling and while many people don't like it, it seems to be working fine for them as i have not heard anything about them really struggling to sell their new cars. the only thing i disagree with you on is that, although i like the new cars, i still think the old 5 series was a beautiful car also