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F-150 SFE

The new SFE package will be available on F-150 SuperCrew XL and XLT 4X2 vehicles with 4.6-liter, 3-valve V-8 engines and 5.5-foot beds. The SFE pickup will achieve 15 mpg in the city and 21 mpg on the highway.

The SFE package trucks also feature a new fuel-efficient six-speed automatic transmission, a 3.15:1 rear axle and 18-inch chrome clad aluminum wheels with low rolling resistance P265/60R18 all-season tires.

"Earning the trust of so many truck customers during the past 31 years has taught us a lot about what they want and value from their F-150," O'Leary said. "In the past, there was a tradeoff – more fuel economy meant less capability and vice versa. With the new F-150, we didn't accept tradeoffs. We delivered capability and fuel economy."

The SFE package will be a no-cost option on XLT SuperCrew pickups with the chrome package and will cost $1,095 when ordered on XL SuperCrew pickups with the decor package.

http://media.ford.com/products/pres...c686dce47-33C75B68-A527-EF32-7D2421C63A9E8B98

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Its kind of crazy it makes the EXACT same mpgs on city and highway as the GMT XFEs. Both companies are so smart to use the 6 speed autos to boost fuel economy at least a little for the 2009 MY. Im most excited that it can tow 11,300 lbs!
 

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^ the SFE (or XFE) can't tow 11,300 lbs though. Only a very specifically optioned 1/2 ton truck can do that. And even then, 11,300 lbs is a lot of weight for a 1/2 ton to tow safely.
 

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no i knew the SFE couldnt tow that weight and was just pointing out the 2009 F-150 as a whole. Sure its alot for a half ton truck but its something Ford can continue to stand out from the full sized truck pack.
 

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A 3.15 differential? That's pretty tall for an F-150. Taller than what they use in the Mustang. No wonder it can hit 21MPG.
 

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Hey! They released the rest of the specifications. 390lb-ft at 3500RPM on E85 and the 6R80E. So when do they put in a 270HP 3.7L DOHC V6?
 

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I hate having a name for the model like XFE.
That is dumb.

BTW, the GM truck needs a tonneau cover to achieve that hwy mileage. Many people take it off, so they won't get the same fuel economy as the Ford, which don't need the tonneau.

Ford wins.
 

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Hey! They released the rest of the specifications. 390lb-ft at 3500RPM on E85 and the 6R80E. So when do they put in a 270HP 3.7L DOHC V6?
I would be very surprised if the 3.7L did better than the 15/21 of the 4.6L XFE. It's only returning 16/23 in the MKS, which is much lighter and more aerodynamic than the F150.
 

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Hey! They released the rest of the specifications. 390lb-ft at 3500RPM on E85 and the 6R80E. So when do they put in a 270HP 3.7L DOHC V6?
That torque number is quite impressive for a Ford. And they're not putting the 3.7 Cyclone in, but instead the 3.5 Ecoboost making an est. 340HP. and the same in torque.

And the 5.4 trition only makes 315 or 320 horses?

MkS gets 24
God thats sad on Ford's part, I would think they could higher mileage since the 3.7 gets to higher rpms and lower revs than the 3.5 dosent it?
 

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I would be very surprised if the 3.7L did better than the 15/21 of the 4.6L XFE. It's only returning 16/23 in the MKS, which is much lighter and more aerodynamic than the F150.
The goal would be to replace the older 4.6L SOHC 2v V8/4-speed combo, not necessarily outdo the XFE. A new 3.7L V6 ought to be able to beat the base V8 in fuel efficiency at least, especially with a manual, and it would be cheaper than the XFE package. Besides, if I read it correctly, the XFE is only for SuperCrew models; a new 3.7L V6 would only be used in Regular Cab F-150s like the 4.2L V6 was before it.

And the 5.4 trition only makes 315 or 320 horses?
Maybe Ford's holding off from making any major changes to enhance the 5.4L V8 with the 5.0 and EcoBoost 3.5 on the horizon?
 

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Fuel Economy comparison 2009 Pick Ups

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080918/ford_trucks_fuel_efficiency.html?.v=1

Ford introduces 'superior fuel economy' F-150 pickup that gets 21 highway mpg, tying GM models


NEW YORK (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. introduced a new version of its F-150 pickup Thursday, touting fuel economy improvements that make it one of the most fuel-efficient vehicles in its class.
The SFE -- or "superior fuel economy" -- version of the truck, which is slated to go on sale next month, offers more miles per gallon than versions in the overall 2009 lineup, Ford said.


For example, the 2008 version of the automaker's two-wheel drive F-150 with a 5.4-liter, three-valve V-8 engine averages 13 miles per gallon in the city and 17 mpg on the highway, while the 2009 version gets 14 mpg in the city and 20 mpg on the highway, Ford spokesman Said Deep said.

The SFE package boosts the vehicle's mileage to 15 mpg in the city and 21 mpg on the highway, though with a 4.6-liter engine instead of a 5.4-liter, Deep said.

That matches the averages of the most fuel-efficient versions of General Motors Corp.'s two-wheel-drive 2009 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra, according to Environmental Protection Agency figures.

Dearborn, Mich.-based Ford said the SFE package will be a no-cost option on its XLT SuperCrew pickups with the chrome package. It will cost $1,095 when ordered on XL SuperCrew pickups with the decor package.

Ford said the improved fuel economy is the result of several improvements, including the use of lightweight steel that cut the vehicle's weight by up to 100 pounds, and better aerodynamics that reduce drag.

Also boosting the vehicle's fuel efficiency are a six-speed transmission, open-valve fuel injection, and an automatic fuel shut-off triggered when a driver releases the gas pedal.

Chrysler LLC was aiming for best-in-class fuel economy, but its new 2009 Ram pickup truck's highway mileage was 1 mpg behind offerings from Ford and GM. A 2009 Ram with two-wheel drive and a 5.7-liter Hemi engine gets 14 mpg in the city and 20 mpg on the highway, Chrysler spokesman Dan Bodene said.

Among other automakers, a two-wheel drive Toyota Tundra with a 5.7-liter engine gets 14 mpg in the city and 18 mpg on the highway, while Nissan Motor Co.'s two-wheel drive Titan pickup with a 5.6-liter engine gets 13 mpg in the city and 18 on the highway.
 

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Re: Fuel Economy comparison 2009 Pick Ups

BTW, the GM truck needs a tonneau cover to achieve that hwy mileage. Many people take it off, so they won't get the same fuel economy as the Ford, which don't need the tonneau.

Ford wins.
Good point!:bounce:

No, it's a terrible point. Consumer behavior is a variable, and shouldn't be used as a means of comparing the mpgs of two vehicles.

The Ford SFE is slower so the owners will have to push the gas pedal further to keep up with traffic than would the driver of a Chevy XFE, so the Ford will get worse mileage.

Chevy wins.


Lame, right?
 

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I hate having a name for the model like XFE.
That is dumb.

I think that they legally need a special model name so that they can show the improved fuel economy on the vehicle sticker/label. Otherwise, the label would have to show the fuel economy number for the "normal" truck, without the XFE/SFE improvements.
 

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Re: Fuel Economy comparison 2009 Pick Ups

No, it's a terrible point. Consumer behavior is a variable, and shouldn't be used as a means of comparing the mpgs of two vehicles.

The Ford SFE is slower so the owners will have to push the gas pedal further to keep up with traffic than would the driver of a Chevy XFE, so the Ford will get worse mileage.

Chevy wins.


Lame, right?
Noooooo...Ford wins.
They are matched until GM owners take off their cover - which far more people do than don't. That means that far more people will get worst FE.

Thus, Ford wins.
 

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Re: Fuel Economy comparison 2009 Pick Ups

No, it's a terrible point. Consumer behavior is a variable, and shouldn't be used as a means of comparing the mpgs of two vehicles.

The Ford SFE is slower so the owners will have to push the gas pedal further to keep up with traffic than would the driver of a Chevy XFE, so the Ford will get worse mileage.

Chevy wins.


Lame, right?
You can't assume that any more than you can assume tonneau cover practice. How heavy people are with the throttle has is affected by several variables, of which ultimate acceleration numbers (0-60, etc.) is only one. Another is individual driving style. Another is part-throttle performance, which does not necessarily correlate to ultimate acceleration numbers. Another is gearing.

An anecdote: My mom's ten-year old Aurora consistently "feels" quicker than my MKZ, and returns virtually the same gas mileage, despite the fact that the Aurora is in fact much slower in a flat out 0-60 run and has a vastly inferior power-to-weight ratio.
 
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