Ford exec reveals 2017 Raptor will have 450 HP

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NoStopN

Discussion Starter · Jan 26, 2015

Ford exec reveals new F-150 Raptor packs 450 horsepower
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January 26, 2015
By: Noah Joseph

Between the new GT supercar, Shelby GT350R muscle car and F-150 Raptor off-roader, Ford had quite the array of performance machinery on display at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this month. One thing it didn't reveal about any of the three, however, is how much power they'd pack, but a senior executive at the Blue Oval automaker has reportedly let the cat out of the bag when it comes to the Raptor.

During a televised interview during the Rolex 24 at Daytona this past weekend, Ford's product development chief Raj Nair is said to have revealed that the new F-150 Raptor will offer 450 horsepower. That's pretty impressive from a 3.5-liter turbocharged V6, and would put the new Raptor out ahead of the 411 hp produced by the 6.2-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the previous SVT Raptor.

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Ultra Magnus

· #2 · Jan 26, 2015

Why is this motor not in the Navigator. At least then it would have some real differentiation from the Expedition and give people a real reason to look at it. But I will miss the sound of the big V8 in the Raptor.

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GM_Guy81

· #3 · Jan 26, 2015

Well... okay, thats all great and stuff but it sort of doesn't matter if its packing 260 lbs-ft of torque. Where are the torque figures!?

GHull3

· #4 · Jan 26, 2015

GM_Guy81 said:
Well... okay, thats all great and stuff but it sort of doesn't matter if its packing 260 lbs-ft of torque. Where are the torque figures!?

If it's an indicator the current standard 3.5EB in the F150 is [email protected] and [email protected]

richmond2000

· #5 · Jan 26, 2015

Ultra Magnus said:
Why is this motor not in the Navigator. At least then it would have some real differentiation from the Expedition and give people a real reason to look at it. But I will miss the sound of the big V8 in the Raptor.

maybe Lincoln will have some sort of "V" series that could put that engine to good use

DetroitIron

· #6 · Jan 26, 2015

I went to the Auto Show this past weekend. Ford had it all over the other manufacturers both in terms of performance and new offerings. Other than the Colorado ZR2, GM made you feel like you were in a showroom, not an auto show. Really disappointing.

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JeffInDFW

· #7 · Jan 26, 2015

I am with the majority of the guys on the Raptor forum. They want the V8. Twin turbochargers being worked hard in extreme heat and dust and then shut down while red hot is a recipe for maintenance nightmare. Truck owners want to over work, over load, and beat the hell out of their trucks for 300,000 miles with nothing but oil changes. You will NOT get that with twin turbochargers.

On the Raptor forum, they are already talking about what it would take to do a V8 Swap.

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ZR2BlaZeR2

· #8 · Jan 26, 2015

I want to go on record here about how much I love this truck. Especially in Bigfoot Blue as shown above. This is the only Ford I would consider purchasing.

Having said that... I'm not sold on EcoBoost. This thing needs an LS Swap.

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mchicha

· #9 · Jan 26, 2015

Being a Turbo motor its going to have a proper torque kick probably above 400 pound feet of torque. I love the GT and this truck, but the Mustang just seems to be trying too hard to be the Modeo.

b4z

· #10 · Jan 26, 2015

Actually, if you look at the 2015 Lincoln navigator print ads it has a double asterisk at the bottom of the page denoting that if 93 octane is used HP bumps to 380 and tq to 460 not 420! so 15hp and 40 tq increase with 93 octane.

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SilveradoNationFan

· #11 · Jan 26, 2015

I wish GM had something like this in the silverado to offer its customers......

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guionM

· #12 · Jan 26, 2015

For the record, I will come out and say I'm not opposed to blown V6 engines. I had a series of 5.0 Mustang's and then I went to a Thunderbird Supercoupe that had a supercharged V6 that nothing more than a pulley and a Y-pipe exhaust made it embarrass not only my previous 5.0s, but also made it roughly as quick as LT1Camaros. So I am by no means speaking as a V8 only enthusiast.

That having been said, I do think there's some instances where the V8 engine is and should be the only option. The Raptor is that instance.... unless we're talking about a smaller truck.

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NoStopN

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 26, 2015 (Edited)

GM_Guy81 said:
Well... okay, thats all great and stuff but it sort of doesn't matter if its packing 260 lbs-ft of torque. Where are the torque figures!?

While the article says that an exact torque figure wasn't given (blurted out), it's safe to say that it should produce more than the standard F150 EB's 420 lb.-ft.

JeffInDFW said:
I am with the majority of the guys on the Raptor forum. They want the V8. Twin turbochargers being worked hard in extreme heat and dust and then shut down while red hot is a recipe for maintenance nightmare. Truck owners want to over work, over load, and beat the hell out of their trucks for 300,000 miles with nothing but oil changes. You will NOT get that with twin turbochargers.

If we've learned anything about the aftermarket, it's that they will find most of the stock vehicle's shortcomings before the average customer will. Then, they get to work on remedies.

b4z said:
Actually, if you look at the 2015 Lincoln navigator print ads it has a double asterisk at the bottom of the page denoting that if 93 octane is used HP bumps to 380 and tq to 460 not 420! so 15hp and 40 tq increase with 93 octane.

That is one of those things that most of us forgot about. The F150 was advertised as 360/420 on regular unleaded. I haven't seen anyone even mention using high grade juice in the EB engine.

John Wilde

· #14 · Jan 26, 2015

It will have over 500tq and could be more depending on how much they want to give.
If you model the HP and TQ off the 365/450 motor it = 450/554 in this.

vanshmack

· #15 · Jan 26, 2015

ZR2BlaZeR2 said:
Having said that... I'm not sold on EcoBoost. This thing needs an LS Swap.

Everything is better with an LS swap.

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DGA

· #16 · Jan 26, 2015

This one make the previous one look meek and it was an aggressive looking truck.

Love the turbo motors as well... Also if most modern turbo 2-liter engines can easily get about 300 HP, from the factory, 450 from a 3.5L twin turbo is not really pushing it either. This thing should really scoot.

Mentat Bashar

· #17 · Jan 26, 2015

I'm liking this truck more and more but I'm not entirely sold on the V6 turbo approach here. I guess it will take time to get used to and see how well it performs when in the hands of the public.

MN12Fan

· #18 · Jan 26, 2015

NoStopN said:
That is one of those things that most of us forgot about. The F150 was advertised as 360/420 on regular unleaded. I haven't seen anyone even mention using high grade juice in the EB engine.

http://www.lincoln.com/suvs/navigator/features/?featID=1#page=Feature1

The higher output in exchange for higher octane is new for 2015 but it seems to be limited to the Navigator, or at least there's been no mention of other applications offering it. Output from the engine on regular in the F-150 and Expedition remains at 365 hp and 420 lb-ft.

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BlackGTP

· #19 · Jan 26, 2015

SilveradoNationFan said:
I wish GM had something like this in the silverado to offer its customers......

Isn't there a blackout package?

minnfang

· #20 · Jan 26, 2015 (Edited)

Mentat Bashar said:
I guess it will take time to get used to and see how well it performs when in the hands of the public.

This is totally anecdotal, but a friend just had his 1 year old F150 swallow a turbo about 1000 miles from home. I've renamed the engine 'Eco-Poof'.
The local dealer in the middle of nowhere gave him an old Windstar mini-van for a loaner - ha-ha!

That said, the new Raptor looks awesome. I think the crazy headlights look too 'sci-fi' on the standard F150, but they work on the Raptor.

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