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GTO is overpriced? How do you figure? Most of the people looking at the GTO arent look at a Mustang. They are 2 very different cars. Maybe if the Mustang wanted to party in the performance lux coupe market, ok. But tell me why is the GTO overpriced? A TA or SS loaded with what the GTO comes with could reach upwards of 35k... but that was reasonable?

As for the Bird, its sad but its not coming back. Would I like to see it come back? Not really. Pontiac has its GTO which will be positioned higher then the Camaro as far as performance and luxury. Standard options will be plenty. It will be the higher end car. I would like to see the two come back together, but all in all I really hope it doesnt. Let the Camaro take the 20-35 market while the GTO takes it from 35 and up.

Stop hating on the GTO. Its going to get better and better as years come and by the time its home grown here in the US(or Canada) it will be just the car we all wanted it to be. It wont be a retro-mobile, but it will be a GTO. Its getting its "much needed" (rolleyes) scoops and more power next year.
 

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Originally posted by Chops@May 20 2004, 05:48 AM
Well ya know what? Pontiac guys can't have their birds, then chevy guys can't have their camaros. And as far as I'm aware a new camaro is just a pipe dream anyhow because of the CAW.

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Edit: and who's to say that all the bird fans will just go out and buy a camaro? hell with that. if gm wants to **** me over like that i'll go buy a stang.
just to clairfy what you said, the deal was with the Ste.Therese plant, not the CAW. The expansion of the Oshawa plant added more jobs then the Ste.T plant let go, so the CAW is happy. The Ste.T plant has been destroyed as of late march.
 

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Originally posted by akumaknight@Jun 2 2004, 03:17 AM
You gotta have a bird to have a camaro... thats just the way things are... kinda like how you gotta have a .... hot chick in a james bond movie. They jost go together.

the 82 Trans AM and the 02 Trans am (with ram air hood) are my favorite trans ams. Who ever could confuse an Iroc with a firebird must be dumb... seriously, people arent that stupid. (Well.. I take that back there are some people who just dont know any thing about cars, my ex girl friend had never heard of a LeSabre when i got my 92 LeSabre last year... but she knew what a bonnie was? (shes the kinda girl thats likes cavaliers and contours..... so yea...)

Any ways, kill the GTO while no one other then GM freaks are even concered about it, and bring back the twins.. WITH A VENGANCE!
who said you have to have a bird with Camaro?
Why should Pontiac kill the GTO? Because it doesnt have hood scoops? No wing?
 

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Originally posted by Chops@Jun 3 2004, 01:54 AM
Because the GTO is well over 30 grand and the Camaro would be much much less. Why not have the same option for Pontiac guys?

What the HELL do you have against firebirds anyways? :argue:
Actualy, if you look at the last generation SS that came with a fully loaded, and compared the price of the GTO to the SS or TA, the GTO would be a steal compared to the other 2. Ive seen CETA's going for 35k... how can you possibly justify that price for the TA, yet raise hell when the GTO is 2k less, and you get a much better car.
 
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