you gto lovers close your ears cuz you aint gonna agree with meOriginally posted by actionjack@May 18 2004, 08:29 PM
The Firebird is to the Camaro like Abbot is to Costello. The two are synonamous to each other.
The GTO is a different animal IMO. And, the current GTO lacks any of the Aggressive styling ques of the previous Camaro/Firebird.
To describe the SS and the WS6 in there appearance would be to say the SS looks like it can kick your a$$ and the WS6 looks like it is coming to kick your a$$.
If GM is gonna bring back the Camaro and/or the Firebird on the Zeta platform it will need to be aggressively styled and not a rebadged Holden.
I agree 100%. If you can't tell a Firebird and Camaro apart you need to put the pipe down. :blink: Also the 4 generations of Firebirds are VERY different!! [/b][/quote]Originally posted by bearishpeter+May 20 2004, 01:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bearishpeter @ May 20 2004, 01:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Chops@May 20 2004, 12:03 AM
Go sit in the corner. Now. 1 hour. And wear the helmet.
I don't know what you're on man but the 3rd and 4th gen F-bodies looked NOTHING like each other, aside from general shape. Go look at a bird, and then a camaro. Front side, back side, side view, I don't care. You can't convince me that you can mix the two up.
Friggin asinine. It's okay to sell over 5 different types of rebadged blazers but dear god we can't have 2 RWD coupes. <_<
On another note... the G6 is a front drive 6 banger. It will NOT nor will it EVER take the place of a firebird or even dream of touching it.
if the gto is going to be a high end car compared to the camaro,doesn't it make sense to have the counterpart there with it.basicly what i am asking is if the gto is going to be put up there with the vette or right below it,shouldn't we have the option of a lesser priced car that is still very sporty and fun to drive . firebirds are loved by many people just as you have the people that love the camaros. i personally think they should bring them back together.and the reason is not only for tradition but for the people who love them.Originally posted by bigals87z28@May 20 2004, 02:34 AM
GTO is overpriced? How do you figure? Most of the people looking at the GTO arent look at a Mustang. They are 2 very different cars. Maybe if the Mustang wanted to party in the performance lux coupe market, ok. But tell me why is the GTO overpriced? A TA or SS loaded with what the GTO comes with could reach upwards of 35k... but that was reasonable?
As for the Bird, its sad but its not coming back. Would I like to see it come back? Not really. Pontiac has its GTO which will be positioned higher then the Camaro as far as performance and luxury. Standard options will be plenty. It will be the higher end car. I would like to see the two come back together, but all in all I really hope it doesnt. Let the Camaro take the 20-35 market while the GTO takes it from 35 and up.
Stop hating on the GTO. Its going to get better and better as years come and by the time its home grown here in the US(or Canada) it will be just the car we all wanted it to be. It wont be a retro-mobile, but it will be a GTO. Its getting its "much needed" (rolleyes) scoops and more power next year.
^what he said all the wayOriginally posted by akumaknight@Jun 2 2004, 03:17 AM
You gotta have a bird to have a camaro... thats just the way things are... kinda like how you gotta have a .... hot chick in a james bond movie. They jost go together.
the 82 Trans AM and the 02 Trans am (with ram air hood) are my favorite trans ams. Who ever could confuse an Iroc with a firebird must be dumb... seriously, people arent that stupid. (Well.. I take that back there are some people who just dont know any thing about cars, my ex girl friend had never heard of a LeSabre when i got my 92 LeSabre last year... but she knew what a bonnie was? (shes the kinda girl thats likes cavaliers and contours..... so yea...)
Any ways, kill the GTO while no one other then GM freaks are even concered about it, and bring back the twins.. WITH A VENGANCE!