[damnitgmi]

After a depressed August, the European passenger car market manages its first increase of the year in September, albeit a a small one with sales up by less than 1%. In absolute terms, September edges out July as the biggest month of 2020 so far with 1.29 million deliveries. The year-to-date figure improves only slightly to -27.9% with 8.63 million deliveries. Among the five major European markets, losses were seen in Spain (-13.5%), the UK (-4.4%) and France (-3%), while Italy (+9.5%) and Germany (+8.4%) showed solid gains.

Sales of car models (hatchback, sedan, stationwagon, coupe and convertible) are down 2.7% to 53.6% share. Crossover and SUV sales are up 5.1% to top 40.6% share, and MPV sales are up 3.7% to 5.8% share. Within these figures, EVs and PHEVs are up 166% to around 160,000 registrations in September, EVs were up 120% to nearly 92,000 deliveries and PHEVs were up 268% to just over 68,000 deliveries. The share of plug-in cars stood at 12% in September (7.1% for pure EVs alone). The Year-To-Date share of EVs and PHEVs now stands at 9% (4.9% for EVs).

Full article at CarSalesBase: https://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-analysis-september-2020-brands/

 

[damnitgmi]

Opel is down 33% compared to last year. But there is hope. After a long time the new Corsa is the best seller in its segment in Germany for the last two months. A third of it are the electric Corsa-e. The new Mokka isn't on sale yet but reviews look promising. Both are the most important cars for Opel.

 

[BlackGTP]

Amazing to see brands, such as Subaru, that sell so well in the USA, but barely sell in Europe.

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

Amazing to see brands, such as Subaru, that sell so well in the USA, but barely sell in Europe.

I don't know about the rest of Europe but Subaru's importer in the UK is unambitious and out of touch with customers, relying solely on WRC heritage to sell Impreza and ignoring demands for turbo Legacy/Outback models - it's not helped by their late development of a diesel engine, which proved under-powered and unreliable.

 

[richmond2000]

Amazing to see brands, such as Subaru, that sell so well in the USA, but barely sell in Europe.

Toyota as far as I know NEVER got a big foot hold over there ether but with GOOD offerings locally why look foreign?

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

Toyota as far as I know NEVER got a big foot hold over there ether but with GOOD offerings locally why look foreign?

Toyota sell more cars in Europe than Ford, so not inconsequential.

 

[1958carnut]

Toyota sell more cars in Europe than Ford, so not inconsequential.

. FWIW watching the various "idiots in cars" videos, there does seem to be quite a few Toyota products on the roads in Europe vs. the others.

 

[BlackGTP]

Toyota as far as I know NEVER got a big foot hold over there ether but with GOOD offerings locally why look foreign?

Probably a hint of what the American car market would look like if Detroit didn't chase customers into the ***anese's open arms in the 1980's. I bet ***anese brands would have considerably smaller market share, water under the bridge, but interesting parallel.

 

[BlackGTP]

Toyota sell more cars in Europe than Ford, so not inconsequential.

Certainly not inconsequential, but on the same token, nowhere near the market dominance that Toyota has in the USA (same for Honda).

 

[mbukukanyau]

Chevrolet sold 30 vehicles.. Diplomats or some Camaro imports? Making it more exclusive than Bentley. What’s the deal with Infiniti?

If Tesla cannot turn a profit this coming year on car sales, they are doomed, since the E V credits revenue will disappear

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

Amazing to see brands, such as Subaru, that sell so well in the USA, but barely sell in Europe.

Or Perhaps Chevrolet ?

 

[mbukukanyau]

Or Perhaps Chevrolet ?

You know Chevrolet has no formal dealer network in Europe

 

[BlackGTP]

Or Perhaps Chevrolet ?

Yup, same deal.

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

Chevrolet sold 30 vehicles.. Diplomats or some Camaro imports? Making it more exclusive than Bentley. What’s the deal with Infiniti?

If Tesla cannot turn a profit this coming year on car sales, they are doomed, since the E V credits revenue will disappear

Infiniti wasn't very visible as a brand in Europe, selling just 60,000 cars in 12 years and ceased operations here earlier this year.

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

You know Chevrolet has no formal dealer network in Europe

They didn't sell many when they had a dealer network here, that why they officially withdrew.

 

[mbukukanyau]

They didn't sell many when they had a dealer network here, that why they officially withdrew.

This is true, they were also competing at the entry level side, where they are not playing anymore in North America.

They might be better of bringing the Wuling and Banjun brands over there

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

This is true, they were also competing at the entry level side, where they are not playing anymore in North America.

They might be better of bringing the Wuling and Banjun brands over there

You know when you take a budget brand like Daewoo and then re brand it Chevrolet and try to charge more for the same rubbish it's bound to bite you in the arse

GM were not playing in the budget , entry level side they were trying to sell budget, entry level vehicles for a premium price

People are not as stupid as they thought

 

[asrapid1]

Geely Group?
Oh ..that must be Volvo or?

I'm surprised how much people praise Mazda (it is a good car) but how actually it doesn't sell that well. I guess they went too high with prices.
SAIC MG..is that the electric MG ZS EV? I've seen that vehicle week ago charging.

 

[Ruperts Trooper]

You know when you take a budget brand like Daewoo and then re brand it Chevrolet and try to charge more for the same rubbish it's bound to bite you in the arse

GM were not playing in the budget , entry level side they were trying to sell budget, entry level vehicles for a premium price

People are not as stupid as they thought

Daewoo was a steady selling budget brand in Europe, selling previous-generation Opel/Vauxhalls sometimes with a light facelift - GM was doomed to failure when it decided to change the badge to Chevrolet and increase prices up to mainstream levels - there are a handful of global car brands where the badge justifies a price premium, but Chevrolet isn't one of them.

Renault's Dacia brand has moved into the budget segment vacated by Chevrolet, somewhat successfully it seems.

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

Daewoo was a steady selling budget brand in Europe, selling previous-generation Opel/Vauxhalls sometimes with a light facelift - GM was doomed to failure when it decided to change the badge to Chevrolet and increase prices up to mainstream levels - there are a handful of global car brands where the badge justifies a price premium, but Chevrolet isn't one of them.

Renault's Dacia brand has moved into the budget segment vacated by Chevrolet, somewhat successfully it seems.

Unbelievably the Daewoo stuff was pretty reliable

Cheep transport that has very little issues for the most part