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Their proposed banning of petroleum-fueled cars, is on the wrong side of the "spectrum".

If they truly wish to push the EV agenda, if they truly wish to avoid the dependence on foreign oil sources (like Russia) how about they announce some concrete plans to increase electricity production and availability, and reduce it's cost?

Their proposal is like trying to save lives in auto accidents by banning bleeding.
 

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Indeed. And the tired argument of - until we all do something, no one should do anything - is nothing more than the classic race to the bottom. Facile beyond belief

Always good to see these (ahem) internationally respected amateur-expert climatologists here on GMI 馃憤
Definitely. It's easy to say, "Zero? You can't reach zero!"

Of course you can't, but it doesn't matter. It's just like M. Barra's zero, zero, zero goal. Of course they are impossible goals to attain, but that doesn't mean they are a wrong idea. If you pick a goal of a certain reduction (50%, 25%, whatever) that IS achievable, once you reach it, you quit,. Because you've reached your goal.

If your goal is unachievable, it just becomes a "direction" to move in. And it never ends, because you always WANT to improve it, to get closer to zero.
 

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Firstly, no one is saying what the Earth's temperature should be, just that as it warms, the ice will melt which adds to sea levels, that newly introduced fresh water changes the density and temperature of sea water which causes ocean currents slow, they stop transporting warmer temperatures from the Equator to the hemispheres which then cool since they only get heat from the sun. This is what caused the Ice Age.....
That's conflicting. The higher warmth melts the ice, making more water, disrupting the ocean currents (which, by the way are mostly driven by the Earth's rotation) which cools the higher latitudes, causing an ice age, which would make more ice form, reducing water levels, making less warmth. This sounds like a feedback loop.

In addition, another feedback loop: Clouds. When the planet heats up, melts more ice, creates more surface area of water. That plus the higher temps cause more evaporation, causing more general cloud cover, which does two things; lowers the amount of the sun's heat (reflected off the clouds) but these same clouds also hold in more heat from being radiated out into space. I'm not sure which side "wins" this battle.

The climate is an extremely complicated thing.
 

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There is evidence that the additional water weight in the oceans is compressing & lowering the ocean floors, counter-acting the sea level rise.
Actually, pushing down on the ocean floor would push the continents upwards.

Overall, the forces have to balance out as the planet isn't gaining or losing any mass from this.
 

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So I鈥檓 wondering if new green hydrogen fuels take off by way of Ammonia (NH4) as a carrier medium that produces zero carbon emissions. Presently it鈥檚 around 30 cents/liter but I guess if the auto industry jumped on it, the price would go through the roof鈥.
Just because hydrogen exists within a larger molecule doesn't mean it's useful. Water is two thirds hydrogen, and water is a VERY abundant commodity. But it just doesn't help that much.
 
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