WOW, great article!
im sorry but i have to strongly disagree with your reasonings, styling is vastly improved (some would say best in class) the cars are more refined than ever, and more refined than most rivals. the cars are edgy, yes. at the same time they are very sleek in aperiance. cadillac has moved forward faster than any other brand in recent history. not only in product but in image, it was once thought of as a fallen giant, and in some cases still is thought of that way, but the majority of people see it as a worthy compititor to the germans.Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 2 2004, 03:43 AM
Article calls the new Cadillacs SLEEK? First distortion of reality. Oops...avoidance of reality. No Cadillac made now could ever be called sleek. They are all choppy, edgy, unrefined planes, and a mismash of distortions that never look good from all angles or even from one view. The interiors are hardly as Edmunds calls "improved" despite the loanshark prices that are now being assessed to purchase Cadillacs.
Cadillac has managed to offer superb engines and handling in mediocre designs. Yes, sales are up, but from what level? Cadillac was moribund years ago and there is nothing to suggest that there is any hope of improvement on the aesthetic quality of Audi or Mercedes. GM has seen to it that Cadillac is its BMW and that is no compliment. While Ford hired Audis interior and exterior design managers, GM has apparently hired migrant workers who know nothing of aesthetics.
This article is merely a Michael Moore examination of a car that is ho-hum at best from the outside, mediocre on the inside, and a waste of a platform for driving. It might be a joy to drive, but so would be this platform surrounded by a casket.
First of all, the new Caddy looks beautiful! I can see some people who don't like the bold, in-your-face look but who wants just another car in this price range? I can't imagine that so many rave reviews from normally anti-domestic sources can be considered a distortion of reality.Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 2 2004, 03:43 AM
Article calls the new Cadillacs SLEEK? First distortion of reality. Oops...avoidance of reality. No Cadillac made now could ever be called sleek. They are all choppy, edgy, unrefined planes, and a mismash of distortions that never look good from all angles or even from one view. The interiors are hardly as Edmunds calls "improved" despite the loanshark prices that are now being assessed to purchase Cadillacs.
Cadillac has managed to offer superb engines and handling in mediocre designs. Yes, sales are up, but from what level? Cadillac was moribund years ago and there is nothing to suggest that there is any hope of improvement on the aesthetic quality of Audi or Mercedes. GM has seen to it that Cadillac is its BMW and that is no compliment. While Ford hired Audis interior and exterior design managers, GM has apparently hired migrant workers who know nothing of aesthetics.
This article is merely a Michael Moore examination of a car that is ho-hum at best from the outside, mediocre on the inside, and a waste of a platform for driving. It might be a joy to drive, but so would be this platform surrounded by a casket.
Cadillac is number 3 in sales, it has surpassed mercedes benz, only behind BMW and Lexus.Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 1 2004, 10:43 PM
Article calls the new Cadillacs SLEEK? First distortion of reality. Oops...avoidance of reality. No Cadillac made now could ever be called sleek. They are all choppy, edgy, unrefined planes, and a mismash of distortions that never look good from all angles or even from one view. The interiors are hardly as Edmunds calls "improved" despite the loanshark prices that are now being assessed to purchase Cadillacs.
Cadillac has managed to offer superb engines and handling in mediocre designs. Yes, sales are up, but from what level? Cadillac was moribund years ago and there is nothing to suggest that there is any hope of improvement on the aesthetic quality of Audi or Mercedes. GM has seen to it that Cadillac is its BMW and that is no compliment. While Ford hired Audis interior and exterior design managers, GM has apparently hired migrant workers who know nothing of aesthetics.
This article is merely a Michael Moore examination of a car that is ho-hum at best from the outside, mediocre on the inside, and a waste of a platform for driving. It might be a joy to drive, but so would be this platform surrounded by a casket.
the article plainly outlines how the interior is improved:Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 2 2004, 03:43 AM
The interiors are hardly as Edmunds calls "improved" despite the loanshark prices that are now being assessed to purchase Cadillacs.
sounds improved to me! as for mediocre design, you clearly don't like cadillac designs of late (which is certainly your perogative), but generally i think most like the direction cadillac has taken. a sales increase is a sales increase, and cadillacs are selling better than in the past. whether that's because of the powertrain or appearance or interior doesn't really matter... lincoln would love the positive buzz cadillac has these days.Panel fitment was generally good and the underlying structure seemed solid even in our preproduction test cars. The wood trim is richer-looking than before, and the seat materials feel a grade higher. Given that a few of the interior pieces weren't quite production quality, we'll reserve our final judgment for now, but our initial impressions were of a cabin that looks and feels as it should in a sedan of this class
Oh, and I'm sure there's a whole boatload of Fords with superior dynamics, build quality and design!Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 1 2004, 10:43 PM
Article calls the new Cadillacs SLEEK? First distortion of reality. Oops...avoidance of reality. No Cadillac made now could ever be called sleek. They are all choppy, edgy, unrefined planes, and a mismash of distortions that never look good from all angles or even from one view. The interiors are hardly as Edmunds calls "improved" despite the loanshark prices that are now being assessed to purchase Cadillacs.
Cadillac has managed to offer superb engines and handling in mediocre designs. Yes, sales are up, but from what level? Cadillac was moribund years ago and there is nothing to suggest that there is any hope of improvement on the aesthetic quality of Audi or Mercedes. GM has seen to it that Cadillac is its BMW and that is no compliment. While Ford hired Audis interior and exterior design managers, GM has apparently hired migrant workers who know nothing of aesthetics.
This article is merely a Michael Moore examination of a car that is ho-hum at best from the outside, mediocre on the inside, and a waste of a platform for driving. It might be a joy to drive, but so would be this platform surrounded by a casket.
Laserwizard, your posts have gone from the absurd to the comical.Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 2 2004, 03:43 AM
Article calls the new Cadillacs SLEEK? First distortion of reality. Oops...avoidance of reality....
You've been driving Japanese econoboxes for too long.Originally posted by laserwizard@Jul 2 2004, 03:43 AM
This article is merely a Michael Moore examination of a car that is ho-hum at best from the outside, mediocre on the inside, and a waste of a platform for driving. It might be a joy to drive, but so would be this platform surrounded by a casket.