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Originally posted by akumaknight@Jun 29 2004, 04:57 PM
I remember when Buicks were a noteworthy brand, poor mans luxary basicly, and they were luxuary. But now, their top of the line is as luxuarias as the competitions entry level stuff...
buicks days was when hartley earl was running the general.

as for the luxury part you said it the line before its the poor man luxury vehicle...
 

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p.s. Bob Lutz is to GM now as Heartly Earl was to GM then.

and to quote mings signature at the bottom of his message

2004 - For the second straight year, GM's Buick brand placed No. 2 behind Lexus and its Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC, Saab and Saturn nameplates all scored above the industry average as well in the closely watched J.D. Power and Associates survey of long-term vehicle dependability.
 

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Originally posted by laserwizard@Jun 29 2004, 05:23 PM
Considering the tripe that gets passed here in praise of GM, this is surprisingly candid and honest. I'm still waiting for the design revolution that was said to be coming from GM after Bob Lutz took over. To date we've seen nothing truly beautiful aside from show cars and the production cars look like melted budda over lima beans. Cadillac has opted for ugly is better, Pontiac has stripped its cars and melted the old plastic over them, Chevrolet is offering boxes with the ugliest frontends on the planet, and Buick seems content on leaving well enough alone. Saturn has been killed by poor products and judgment and Oldsmobile has been allowed to die. I see nothing in any GM dealership window that would make me, like a kid of the 1960's, run to the showroom to say "wow". Let's face it, GM has been icing dog poopie for years and now even the icing is getting watered down.

Great article.
what are you looking at dude? caddy ugly? pontiac melting plastic? chevys boxes?
puff puff pass to the left dude, share the bud . caddy is the one brand that has changed its slef majorly as of 2 years ago. sales are up and the cars look alot bette than before. as for pontiac there slow to join the renaisance.
 
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