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I'm interested in buying a used (03-07) Cadillac CTS, but i'm unsure of the possible configurations. I'm more interested in sportiness than luxury.

I'm aware there are several packages available for this generation, of which are the Sport Package, Wheel Performance Package, and Sport Appearance Package. I would like to know the most sporty configuration with the most aggressive suspension package (FE3).

I know to start with:
3.6L VVT (255hp)
Aisin 6-spd Manual Gearbox

I don't care for the Luxury Package, and do any CTS models come WITHOUT any wood trim? I prefer aluminum and black. Also, how do I differentiate between the models and what suspension I have? Also, which package comes with the 12-spoke wheels and what suspension comes with that?

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I'm interested in buying a used (03-07) Cadillac CTS, but i'm unsure of the possible configurations. I'm more interested in sportiness than luxury.

I'm aware there are several packages available for this generation, of which are the Sport Package, Wheel Performance Package, and Sport Appearance Package. I would like to know the most sporty configuration with the most aggressive suspension package (FE3).

I know to start with:
3.6L VVT (255hp)
Aisin 6-spd Manual Gearbox

I don't care for the Luxury Package, and do any CTS models come WITHOUT any wood trim? I prefer aluminum and black. Also, how do I differentiate between the models and what suspension I have? Also, which package comes with the 12-spoke wheels and what suspension comes with that?

Thanks
I'm also in the same boat as you are and I'm looking at a used CTS for my next car They are fun cars to drive and they look great. To answer some of your questions the 255 horsepower engine came out in 04 and they were paired with automatic transmissions only (03's had the 220 horse 3.2 liter only for the first year). The wood trim (i personally like it) is not a mandatory item on these cars and you could go without it. the 3.2 liter was replaced by a 210 horsepower 2.8 liter V6 in 05 but both engines could be paired with a manual or an automatic tranny. A good way to tell what engine a CTS has (if you can't open the hood and look) is the exhaust tips. A CTS with a 2.8 liter or 3.2 Liter V6 will have one exhaust tip whereas a CTS with the 3.6 liter has the dual tips. If you want a CTS with the 3.6 liter then look at models from 04 to 07. and if you have preference for a manual then you will have to get a CTS with a 3.2 liter or a 2.8 liter engine because the 3.6 liter was auto only. Also there were two manual transmissions offered. on 03 to 05 models a Gertrag 5 speed manual was offered. From 05 onward the Gertrag was replaced by the Aisin 6 speed manual as for what specific packages to go for I cannot answer that part of your question but I hope this provides you with some general information on the CTS
 

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Thanks for the info.

I think they started using the Aisin 6-speeds with the 3.6L V6s in 05-07. That's what I'm looking at right now, I just want to make sure I get the right suspension.
 

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Thanks for the info.

I think they started using the Aisin 6-speeds with the 3.6L V6s in 05-07. That's what I'm looking at right now, I just want to make sure I get the right suspension.
Correct. They most certainly did make 3.6L's with the 6-speed stick, starting in '05 after the 3.2L/stick combo went away with the year before.

As for what model is what, they did have a lot of different packages and trims across the years. A key thing to look for as far as "a" Sport package (sometimes combined with Luxury, sometimes (less frequently) alone) is 17" or 18" wheels (size depended on the specific Sport package and year). This was the main visual indication of the general "Sport" package pieces with firmer springs & shocks, Limited Slip rear axle, Stabilitrak, etc. as other base and Luxury alone models had 16" wheels.

Also, in '06-07 (I think), they also made an extra Sport package on top of that which added extra visual items like body color grille, extra rocker moldings and fascia pieces and thin-spoked 18" wheels.

I think it was mainly just the one Sport level (i.e. not like with the '08 and FE2 and FE3 setups), but I could be wrong.

For anything and everything more, I highly recommend going over here:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/

and specifically:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-forum-2003-through-2007/

Not to promote another board, but it's the biggest collection of Cadillac owners everywhere (myself included for many years), and loaded with talk and information on any and every model ever made.
 

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^^In addition to that, you can do a national (or put a range in) search on Autotrader specifically for '05-07s with 6-cyl and manual. You'll get some non-Sports and also some random 2.8L stick cars (and, of course, some random automatics that were just entered wrong), but here's the full deal as far as Autotrader goes:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=0&address=19087&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=CAD&model=CTS&make2=&start_year=2005&end_year=2007&min_price=&max_price=&transmission=Manual&engine=6+Cylinder&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywords_display=&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=y&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=

And a few Sport versions (at least using the visual cues):

'05 with basically no miles:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=685

'05, in the rarer configuration of Sport alone, no wood, etc:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=1343

'06 full boat Sport with one of the 18's offered on them:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=927

'05 typical Luxury/Sport:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=584

'05 Luxury/Sport again:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=815

'05 Luxury/Sport again:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...mission=Manual&doors=&max_price=&cardist=1290

'05 Luxury/Sport again:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...mission=Manual&doors=&max_price=&cardist=1294

You get the picture. LOTS of base/Luxury-only models in that full search, as you can tell from all the 16" wheels.

Here's also an '07 Luxury/Sport WITH the later Sport Appearance Package too (but an automatic):
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...7&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=678

And a red '06 with the same packaging:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...7&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=670

I like the Sport/Sport Appearance '06-07s most because of their rarity (well, relative), especially as a stick. Finding that without the Luxury and wood, though, might be next to impossible.

Also be sure to go on the Cadillac board for them above, and you'll certainly find out even more.
 

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Correct. They most certainly did make 3.6L's with the 6-speed stick, starting in '05 after the 3.2L/stick combo went away with the year before.

As for what model is what, they did have a lot of different packages and trims across the years. A key thing to look for as far as "a" Sport package (sometimes combined with Luxury, sometimes (less frequently) alone) is 17" or 18" wheels (size depended on the specific Sport package and year). This was the main visual indication of the general "Sport" package pieces with firmer springs & shocks, Limited Slip rear axle, Stabilitrak, etc. as other base and Luxury alone models had 16" wheels.

Also, in '06-07 (I think), they also made an extra Sport package on top of that which added extra visual items like body color grille, extra rocker moldings and fascia pieces and thin-spoked 18" wheels.

I think it was mainly just the one Sport level (i.e. not like with the '08 and FE2 and FE3 setups), but I could be wrong.

For anything and everything more, I highly recommend going over here:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/

and specifically:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-forum-2003-through-2007/

Not to promote another board, but it's the biggest collection of Cadillac owners everywhere (myself included for many years), and loaded with talk and information on any and every model ever made.
I actually did find that board, but I can't join, as I use Gmail email. Would it be possible for you to copy and paste my question as a new topic on that board and then hand me a link? I'd appreciate it greatly.

Thanks to you all for your information and help!
 

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So this thread is really old, but I was wondering if those that own the 3.6L CTS with the Aisin 6 speed manual have had any issues. My 2005 CTS with the 3.6L V6 and six speed manual has developed a "clunk" in the transmission. It is nearly impossible to shift smoothly without the "clunk". Also note that my car only has 47,411 miles on it. I took it into the dealership and they have informed me that I need a new drive shaft as the rubber coupling is part of the drive shaft and once that is worn down (therefore creating the "clunk") the only fix is to replace the driveshaft. In addition, I need to replace the rear pinion bushing. All total it is going to run me $1,700.

Has anyone else out there had issues with these rubber parts being worn out on their manual transmisssion drive train?

I love my CTS - but really have been dissapointed that such a low mileage car would need such an expensive repair.
 

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So this thread is really old, but I was wondering if those that own the 3.6L CTS with the Aisin 6 speed manual have had any issues. My 2005 CTS with the 3.6L V6 and six speed manual has developed a "clunk" in the transmission. It is nearly impossible to shift smoothly without the "clunk". Also note that my car only has 47,411 miles on it. I took it into the dealership and they have informed me that I need a new drive shaft as the rubber coupling is part of the drive shaft and once that is worn down (therefore creating the "clunk") the only fix is to replace the driveshaft. In addition, I need to replace the rear pinion bushing. All total it is going to run me $1,700.

Has anyone else out there had issues with these rubber parts being worn out on their manual transmisssion drive train?

I love my CTS - but really have been dissapointed that such a low mileage car would need such an expensive repair.
Let me know what you're paying for the parts alone.. I may be able to get you a better deal..
 

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Let me know what you're paying for the parts alone.. I may be able to get you a better deal..
Drive shaft is $960.00 and the rear pinion pushing is $195.00. The rest is labor.

I called around to a half dozen places in San Antonio and no one would touch my car. They all said they did not like to do work on the CTS with the 3.6L and six speed manual or the CTS-V with a manual. Each place I talked to said it was a very difficult job with very expensive parts and recommended that I have the dealership do it. And I called large reputable service places - one that specifically specialized in transmissions.

Very weird.
 

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Drive shaft is $960.00 and the rear pinion pushing is $195.00. The rest is labor.

I called around to a half dozen places in San Antonio and no one would touch my car. They all said they did not like to do work on the CTS with the 3.6L and six speed manual or the CTS-V with a manual. Each place I talked to said it was a very difficult job with very expensive parts and recommended that I have the dealership do it. And I called large reputable service places - one that specifically specialized in transmissions.

Very weird.
Okay, let me see what happens. I have a feeling that even if I can get better prices, with shipping it might be the same - as it will probably be heavy..
 

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Drive shaft is $960.00 and the rear pinion pushing is $195.00. The rest is labor.

I called around to a half dozen places in San Antonio and no one would touch my car. They all said they did not like to do work on the CTS with the 3.6L and six speed manual or the CTS-V with a manual. Each place I talked to said it was a very difficult job with very expensive parts and recommended that I have the dealership do it. And I called large reputable service places - one that specifically specialized in transmissions.

Very weird.
Can you give me your VIN? The price of the driveshaft is very high for a non-V...
 

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Can you give me your VIN? The price of the driveshaft is very high for a non-V...
I am in a high rise at work and my car is down in a parking garage...so the VIN is not accessible. I can probably get it at lunch. What price range are you seeing?

A reminder that my CTS is a 2005 CTS with the sports suspension, 3.6L V6 and six speed manual. You say that the driveshaft is more expensive on my car than a V?

By the way - thanks for checking.
 

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I am in a high rise at work and my car is down in a parking garage...so the VIN is not accessible. I can probably get it at lunch. What price range are you seeing?

A reminder that my CTS is a 2005 CTS with the sports suspension, 3.6L V6 and six speed manual. You say that the driveshaft is more expensive on my car than a V?

By the way - thanks for checking.
If you have your insurance card in your wallet, you could get the VIN there.. I'm not sure on the price as I'm relaying this information to the gentleman I deal with at Cadillac.. He asked for a VIN and I need to get back to him on that for a price. What he's saying is that the price you're being given is for that of a CTS-V driveshaft - and that yours will be much less expensive..
 

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If you have your insurance card in your wallet, you could get the VIN there.. I'm not sure on the price as I'm relaying this information to the gentleman I deal with at Cadillac.. He asked for a VIN and I need to get back to him on that for a price. What he's saying is that the price you're being given is for that of a CTS-V driveshaft - and that yours will be much less expensive..
I just sent you my VIN# via private message.
 

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Okay. I'm dealing directly with a dealership who's stating the drive shaft would cost $550.00 plus shipping. I'm still waiting for a price on the other part...
Just curious what they quote as the price for the drive shaft for the CTS-V? I wonder if my dealership ordered the wrong part? Is that the price they would charge a customer or cost to the dealership?
 

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Oh...and if your contact can get a part number so I can verify that my dealership has ordered the right driveshaft.
 

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Oh...and if your contact can get a part number so I can verify that my dealership has ordered the right driveshaft.
You should check with another dealership. I can generally gets parts for less but the gentleman I'm dealing with is going to be traveling from this point until after the weekend. I left him a new message but I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I get my next reply..

Before making anything final and paying, it wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion on that price..
 
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