CTS gets 1st place in new Road&Track comparo

That's good news for Cadillac. The addition of the 3.6 should really give a bust to the CTS. I still don't like the styling, but it is good to see the race tested CTS take first. The GM engineers knew what they were doing when they developed that car.

Of interest is the placement of the Chrysler 300, Mercedes E-class, and Jaguar S-Type.

First, I thought people didn't like the Jaguar S-Type, or am I thinking of the X-Type? In any case, this is a pretty good showing by Jaguar.

The 300 didn't place as high as I thought it would. It is suppose to blow the field away. I guess not. Was it the Hemi version?

And I find it interesting that the platform the 300 is based off of, the previous E-class, is apparently no match for the newer, more improved Mercedes E-Class. Yep, in this family, Chrysler will aways stay second fiddle with the hand-me downs. I guess Chrysler will eventually get to the E-class level when the current E-class is replaced with an even better model some years down the road.

Again, congratulations to Cadillac for finishing first.

Originally posted by Rampant+May 6 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rampant @ May 6 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigals87z28@May 6 2004, 08:40 AM
In the article, look at the price of the 300. Thats 34+k without the hemi... Hemi power plus options would probably drive that up to the middle 40's no? At that point, Id go CTS-V!

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That's odd. Chrylsers web site says the Hemi version starts at $33k. Adding every option I can find (upgraded Nav and Sound, walnut wood trim, side head air bags, power pedals, etc., etc.), got the price up to $37k. And you are saying they didn't test the hemi?

It makes no sense what-so-ever. $3k more, why in the heck didn't they test the 330C? That is inexcusable IMHO

Also, CTS-Vs is around $50k-$52k. A very long way from the $37k loaded 300C.

Any way you look at it though, that is a great showing by the American cars! Any time both Caddilac and Chrysler beat out both BMW and Audi--that is good news. [/b][/quote]
:ninja: Wait a minute now. If you're saying you went to Chrysler's website for this price quote, and still managed to keep it under $40 grand w/every option. I guess I can see that, but stroll down to any local Chrysler dealer and try to get one at that price with out that rip-off dealer mark up. Now, not saying you wouldn't get a dealer mark up at the Caddy dealership, but thats why you shop around. I guess my point is the CTS-V is worth the (bang for the buck)and chrysler still has to prove itself as a rear drive player in the market...

The 300 is good, but I think the 300 and CTS are 2 different cars aimed at 2 different parts in the market. The 300's price is aimed at the Accord/Camry segment so there V6's can line up in price with there V6 prices. The hemi model is a little something for the enthusiast. I think people going after this car want the hemi as that seems to be the biggest draw from all of dodges commercials. They are pulling crazy times out of that 300C in car rags and its pretty close to the time they get for the CTS-V, but most mags couldnt drive to save there life. How a 300C that weighs over 2 tons post near the same time as a much lighter, much more powerful CTS-V? Answer, wheel hop. The best is reading this months car and driver and all the preppy BMW fan-boys writing in about the "old technology push rod engine" and "how it was leaking oil and low tire pressure, etc etc" which I think C&D added to put extra flare on how bad American cars are today. Caddy loves there new CTS-V, and I dont think they are gunna give of all people, C&D, a run down model so they can rip it apart. If I was caddy, Id give them a ringer with a bit more tuning, and show them how this "old tech pushrod" can smoke out all the VVT you can throw at it.