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Not an article, since i complied it myself, but whatever.

How long has been since this happened last?
USA sales figures, of course.

March / Year-to-date 2004

1. Chevy - 83, 250 / 213,939
2. Toyota - 77,740 / 206,925
3. Ford - 74,631 / 179,621
4. Honda - 58,793 / 158,398


Also, without Scion sales included in with Toyota's, Ford outsold Toyota for the month but not YTD.

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Total Chevy
March 83,250 Year-to-date 213,939

Month YTD
Aveo
3,477 7,883
Camaro
10 19
Cavalier
17,128 50,061
Classic
10,120 29,012
Corvette
3,033 8,401
Impala
30,175 72,624
Malibu
12,997 28,989
Monte Carlo
5,223 13,880
Prizm
0 1
SSR
1,087 3,069


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TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. PASS. CAR
March 77,740 Year-to-date 206,925


TOYOTA RETAIL SALES
(INCLUDES FLEET & HAWAII)
March, 2004

-- CURRENT MONTH -- -- CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE --
DSR % DSR %
2004 2003 CHG 2004 2003 CHG

ECHO 384 3,787 -89.9 1,338 9,556 -86.2
COROLLA 28,199 32,611 -13.5 75,125 75,997 -2.4
CELICA 979 1,476 -33.7 2,608 3,516 -26.8
CAMRY 35,100 38,656 -9.2 96,180 94,004 1.0
AVALON 3,827 4,917 -22.2 9,883 13,016 -25.1
MR2 SPYDER 274 307 -10.7 712 724 -3.0
PRIUS 3,778 2,532 49.2 9,918 6,106 60.3
SCION xA 1,648 0 -- 3,486 0 --
SCION xB 3,551 0 -- 7,675 0 --


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FORD BRAND MARCH 2004 U.S. SALES
Total Ford Cars
March 74,631 Year-to-date 179,621


March Month % March CYTD %
2004 2003 Change 2004 2003 Change

Crown Victoria 9,835 8,026 22.5 21,772 19,685 10.6
Taurus 27,862 33,156 -16.0 68,679 86,574 -20.7
Focus 19,432 24,522 -20.8 48,161 59,843 -19.5
Thunderbird 1,703 1,731 -1.6 3,460 4,065 -14.9
Mustang 15,799 13,573 16.4 36,339 31,265 16.2
Escort 0 2,736 -100.0 1,210 7,205 -83.2


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Honda Total Car Sales

March 58,793 Year-to-date 158,398


American Honda Vehicle Sales For March 2004
Month-to-Date
March March DSR**
2004 2003 % Chg.

Accord * 31,098 35,863 -13.3%
Civic * 26,854 28,655 -6.3%
Prelude 0 1
S2000 758 748 1.3%
Insight 83 222 -62.6%
Year-to-Date

March March DSR**
2004 2003 % Chg.
Accord * 83,231 92,647 -11.3%
Civic * 73,149 72,810 -0.9%
Prelude 0 9
S2000 1,831 1,728 4.6%
Insight 187 501 -63.2%
 

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This may be a pretty consistent thing, as Motor Trend reported similar results from February's sales (February and YTD). I know that I, along with many other people from this site, will continue to monitor this as the year unfolds. I really despise Toyota's ads in which they claim car sales supremacy (for 2003). It's one year boys; don't count on an easy repeat.

I wonder how many in the press will disseminate this information in a clear, plentiful manner as they did in early January when 2003's results demonstrated Toyota's 2003 car sales success? Probably as loudly as they did when Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac beat Toyota in quality reports for the same year...
 

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Wow 19 camaros sold this year alone. What dealership still has 2002's in stock? I wonder how much the mark down is on those things?
 

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Of course, they always have.

Total Passenger car sales, including all brands.

March 2004 / Year to date 2004
GM - 179,428 / 460,892
ToyotaMoCo - 90,054 / 238,928 (this is including Lexus)
 

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Originally posted by hugger99@Apr 5 2004, 01:54 AM
Wow 19 camaros sold this year alone. What dealership still has 2002's in stock? I wonder how much the mark down is on those things?
I would figure how much mark up did they have that they lasted 2 years on lots!! They are probably 35th anni cars that were marked up to 44k+.

Chevy has led in sales for some time. This is without the cobalt or equinox. I think the cobalt will pick up the sales of the outgoing cavi.

And GM is beating out Toyota by almost 2x the sales! Wow, very good first quater.
 

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Originally posted by hugger99@Apr 5 2004, 01:54 AM
Wow 19 camaros sold this year alone. What dealership still has 2002's in stock? I wonder how much the mark down is on those things?
ONE PRIZM GO CHEVORLET OR TOYOTA :argue:
 

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ONE PRIZM GO TO CHEVROLET OR TOYOTA :argue:

NOT [B]CHEVORLET[/B]
 

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Originally posted by hugger99@Apr 5 2004, 01:54 AM
Wow 19 camaros sold this year alone. What dealership still has 2002's in stock? I wonder how much the mark down is on those things?
A few new camaros still at dealerships. Hope the links work. If they don't, sorry. The price of one is 47,000 or so...no wonder it isn't selling.



http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...r=&cardist=2308


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...r=&cardist=2310


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...or=&cardist=200


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...or=&cardist=922
 

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This is indeed good news...I would like to see the totals including trucks. I am wondering if the Silverado is close to outselling the F150, or is that still Fords last stronghold?
 

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March 2004 (percent change)/ Year to Date 2004 (percent change)

Total Ford Brand - 259,791 (2.0%) / 667,886 ( -2.1%)

Total Chevrolet - 233,412 (10.2%) / 600,843 (10.6%)
 

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Stole this.

Manufacturer..........................2003.......................2004...................+/- Pct
Ford F-series............................183,544(40.17%)....209,021(40.45%)..+ 0.28%
Chev Silverado + Avalanche.....155,574(34.05%)....166,685(32.26%)..- 1.79%
Dodge Ram................................97,474(21.33%).....102,845(19.90%)..- 1.43%
GMC Sierra................................38,483( 8.42%).......43,771(8.47%)...+ 0.05%
Toyota Tundra...........................20,293( 4.44%).......23,941( 4.63%)...+ 0.19%
Nissan Titan........................................0( 0.00%).......14,207( 2.75%)...+ 2.75%
 

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Originally posted by tgagneguam@Apr 5 2004, 01:03 AM
I really despise Toyota's ads in which they claim car sales supremacy (for 2003). It's one year boys; don't count on an easy repeat.
a year with the highest US passenger car sales is nothing to sneeze at. i don't generally follow this stuff too closely... but i think that's an impressive feat! and no, they might not easily do it again (and i sure hope they don't), but can you really fault toyota for advertising this? i don't think they're advertising that they're never going to drop from number 1. faulting toyota just because they're toyota is the exact same as faulting gm because they're GM. i sure hope GM is number one in 2004... and i sure hope they'd advertise the hell out of it!
 

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Originally posted by paul8488@Apr 5 2004, 01:05 PM
a year with the highest US passenger car sales is nothing to sneeze at. i don't generally follow this stuff too closely... but i think that's an impressive feat! and no, they might not easily do it again (and i sure hope they don't), but can you really fault toyota for advertising this? i don't think they're advertising that they're never going to drop from number 1. faulting toyota just because they're toyota is the exact same as faulting gm because they're GM. i sure hope GM is number one in 2004... and i sure hope they'd advertise the hell out of it!
I think I may have been misinterpreted. It isn't a small feat to claim top spot in car sales even for one year, particularly in light of Toyota's not using quite as much in the way of incentives to achieve their goal. And there isn't anything wrong with advertising their success; to the contrary, it seems quite appropriate.

However, I will never trumpet Toyota's success, nor will I be happy with it. I despise their success in the same way that a Red Sox fan loathes the Yankees winning the World Series, that's all. While I respect Toyota for its many(!) strengths, you might say that it's not my favorite "team."

(God, I feel I may incite a Sox versus Yankees debate, which is not my intention :D ).
 

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Originally posted by hugger99@Apr 4 2004, 08:54 PM
Wow 19 camaros sold this year alone. What dealership still has 2002's in stock? I wonder how much the mark down is on those things?
Most dealerships in this area (Greenville, SC) have 3-4 Camaro on each lot. Likely V6 only. Maybe one Z/28. But no SS! I do however know of one SOM 2002 SS A4 T-Tops for sale by owner with only ~5Kmiles. I don't know why he's selling...the car looks great though ;)
 

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There are a couple of Pontiac dealerships in this area that have some of the last WS6 and Collectors Edition Trans Ams on the lot too. Sometimes dealerships hang on to one or to cars for several years. There used to be a Chevrolet dealership in the area that had several pace cars in their showroom, 1978 Corvette, 1986 Corvette and a 1993 Camaro Z28, all of them were still new.
 
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