[carscomblogger]

2010 Camaro Navigation: Turn-by-Turn Until December 2009
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/07/2010-camaro-nav.html


The second thing I thought of after seeing the 2010 Camaro’s official interior was “where are they going to put the navigation unit?”

It turns out that the first Camaros to go on sale won’t have one available at all, even as an option. Instead, GM will use its Turn-by-Turn directions, which are downloaded to the car via OnStar and are part of a monthly package owners must pay for.

A traditional navigation system will be offered for the Camaro starting in December 2009. The Camaro goes on sale in early 2009, so there will be many months — and presumably thousands of Camaros on the road — before it becomes an option.

 

[Slideways]

Any news if it will be pop-up to keep the interior looking clean, or if a new center stack is coming?

 

[carscomblogger]

Any news if it will be pop-up to keep the interior looking clean, or if a new center stack is coming?

There was no mention of what type would be offered. I would think anything that would fit into the current unit's design would slant at the wrong angle for sun reflection if a traditional nav screen, so pop-up would make sense.

 

[TuffG929]

I didn't think it was getting a nav screan at all. This is good news to me.

 

[TJ95GAGT]

Makes sense that they are offering it, you can get it in the Mustang and Challenger. Not sure why they cannot offer it at launch but whatever, how long ago did they start developing this car? It looks like a pop up unit would fit the best.

 

[newdude]

I thought that it was not going to get one at all... imo, $300 and i could have a portable tom-tom.

 

[Ambalanche]

Makes sense that they are offering it, you can get it in the Mustang and Challenger. Not sure why they cannot offer it at launch but whatever, how long ago did they start developing this car? It looks like a pop up unit would fit the best.

Don't get me wrong, and I hate to be negative on this great car, but why is it that GM almost always seems to delay something like this? If the competition has it, the Camaro should have it! That simple! Isn't the HUD delayed until Late 2009 also? Maybe some kind of wiring harness they can't get produced or something? Oh well, the car is great though!

 

[FenwickHockey65]

Please be standard on LT models...

 

[Titanic]

Is nobody going to get heated?

I mean, they've had 3 or 4 years to get this car out, and it seems like we have to wait until version 1.5 to get the whole enchilada.

The Challenger had navigation from the start, did it not?

 

[mgescuro]

Is nobody going to get heated?

I mean, they've had 3 or 4 years to get this car out, and it seems like we have to wait until version 1.5 to get the whole enchilada.

The Challenger had navigation from the start, did it not?

What's the use?
This is typical of General Motors incompetence. It shows where priorities fall.
Be thankful the Camaro has seatbelts and a fuel tank.
It shows their product development process and team are a bunch of senile idiot run by a senile idiot.

 

[WishIhadatruck]

Aren't you suppose to be driving too fast to use it anyway?

 

[DirtyMoney]

Is nobody going to get heated?

I mean, they've had 3 or 4 years to get this car out, and it seems like we have to wait until version 1.5 to get the whole enchilada.

The Challenger had navigation from the start, did it not?

I would sacrifice style over functionality when it comes to comparing the Camaro to the Challenger.

 

[racy]

What's the use?
This is typical of General Motors incompetence. It shows where priorities fall.
Be thankful the Camaro has seatbelts and a fuel tank.
It shows their product development process and team are a bunch of senile idiot run by a senile idiot.

Pretty much. Rick need to go, and they need to woo Mullaly.

 

[Quickening]

GM is retarded. I do not understand why they can't launch a car with navigation.

 

[TuffG929]

What's the use?
This is typical of General Motors incompetence. It shows where priorities fall.
Be thankful the Camaro has seatbelts and a fuel tank.
It shows their product development process and team are a bunch of senile idiot run by a senile idiot.

I guess I haven't been here long enough to harbor such contempt.

 

[CamaroCrazy]

I knew it! This is why I've been telling my friends I probably won't buy one until 2010. Not all the options will be available at launch, dealers will probably be adding "market adjustments" to the sticker for the first few months, and there's bound to be quality issues with the first couple thousand off the line as the factory and the labor gets used to producing these new cars.

But its ok! I'm used to WAITING by now.

 

[Titanic]

I guess I haven't been here long enough to harbor such contempt.

Happens around year 4 of membership. You get a mug to commemorate it, though.

 

[sigma]

Happens around year 4 of membership. You get a mug to commemorate it, though.

Really? When do I get that mug? Have I been a GM fan for so long that I harbor deep resentment to a seemingly dysfunctional product development system or adopt "I'll believe it when I see it" as my mantra for life?

 

[MaxLegroom]

Is nobody going to get heated?

I mean, they've had 3 or 4 years to get this car out, and it seems like we have to wait until version 1.5 to get the whole enchilada.

The Challenger had navigation from the start, did it not?

I'm not going to bother. Probably this was a decision made in mid stream in the development process. A more careful eye would have noted that if Chrysler was building 300s with nav and the Challenger is LX based, that they could safely expect that part of the competition to have it. It was probably an option on Mustang in mid 2007, as I drove a Mustang Pony with one in June of last year. Someone might have thought that they might be able to get away without nav as an option on the Camaro.

In any case, I'm not really going to be one of the very first to buy for two reasons. The first is that I expect to be at a new job about six months when it finally hits showrooms, anyway, and I want to see how that pans out. The second is to wait until some of the buzz goes away. In the process of a discussion of another vehicle, I mentioned the Camaro as a possible future option while at the largest of the local Chevrolet dealerships. The sales manager mentioned $120K right off the bat, insuring that when the Camaro hits Newport News streets, I will not darken their doorstep. If you're that much of a preening SOB that you feel the need to pay that much to have one of the first Camaros, go right ahead. I'll golf clap that decision to your face and laugh the moment my back is turned, even if I'm still driving the Prius.

Back to the navigation decision, though. I'm glad it will be available, and will hope it is at least available (I wouldn't expect it to be standard) on the LT, which will likely be my choice, anyway.

 

[2002 Caddy]

I guess I haven't been here long enough to harbor such contempt.

Maybe mgescuro's comments are a little over the top... But the point is that if GM is going to sell a car it needs to be competive. If anything it needs to be AHEAD of the competition... To launch ANY newly designed car without a NAV system in 2008/9 is NUTS. I mean come on you can get a NAV system in a POS Civic.

I will cut GM some slack on the 2005 GTO that came to market without a sunroof, without Onstar and without cool hood scoops... That car was a platform sharing, badge engineered, rush to market...

But please... We have been working on the Camaro for WELL over 4 years... And they missed that every other car in this class has this option...
W.T.F!