Want one? No rush, there are 8,532 in dealer inventories or on the way from the factory.

The new Optic should cover this ground well from January on.




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The new Optic should cover this ground well from January on.

Optiq isn't a replacement for XT4.

 

Seems incredibly short-sighted and nonsensical.

I understand the need to retool Fairfax for EV production.

However, unless they are going to eventually shift the XT4 to another plant (or possibly import the model from outside the United States/Canada) this seems like a great opportunity to cede more volume and customers to other automakers.

And while we know more Cadillac EVs are on the horizon (including the Optiq, which would seeming take on the XT4's role within the lineup), sacrificing an ICE-powered model while the EV take-up rate is has been somewhat unsteady would seem like a riskier strategy.

In fact, only earlier this year, Cadillac backpedaled on their plan to end all ICE-powered products by the end of the decade. Rather, they now state that ICE and EVs would coexist in their lineup for years to come.

 

Very short-sighted and bad planning. First the Malibu, now the XT4 and the XT6 will be next. The only Cadillac ICE vehicle will be the Escalade by 2027. The new president's administration may look to pull the plug (no pun intended) on the $7,500 tax credit within the next year or two.

 

That's surprising being that they just updated it. If this is for real, I have doubts that this is the right move to make with Cadillac's entry level vehicle. As gung-ho as I am on BEV's, the market has strongly demonstrated that it isn't time to pull the plug on ICE.

 

Caddy has an abundance of 2-Row crossovers, with a direct EV replacement, I'm sure they can handle its absence fine. But they might have been able to keep XT4 if was built at a different plant. It's too bad, XT4 is a uniquely attractive little ute. It's surprising how many product decisions ultimately come down to plant utilization.

Waiting to see what happens to XT5, bailing on that would be a huge commitment to EV only at Caddy. Both XT5 and XT6 are incredibly outdated at this point so they are probably just going to run down the clock, but there is still a chance they'll change course and spruce them up and cook up a replacement based on the new Chevy/GMC Utes.

I have to hand it to GM, if this works they'll have pulled off something most automakers haven't been able to. But it fails, it'll be a big one!

 

XT4 is Buick territory, they should make a Buick ICE to take the place of the XT4. Only above Envision.

 

XT4 is the perfect size for urban luxury CUV buyers.
It just didn't have the power or efficiency needed to compete in the market effectively. The MCE improved the interior and tech significantly, but it's real issues were powertrain and refinement.

 

it's real issues were powertrain and refinement.

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Yup. In terms of refinement, XT4's LSY 2.0L engine and 9-speed automatic transmission combo is barely appropriate for a $30k Chevy, let alone a $42k Cadillac.

 

GM needs to learn about Hybrids, kind of a big deal these days

 

I strongly suspect (and I hope I'm wrong) GM will introduce hybrid vehicles in 2027 for only the full-size trucks and SUVs.

 

Yes lets get rid of the relatively new and updated xt4. And keep the old as dirt xt5 and 6. What a great decision. It's not like the 5 and 6 should have been updated two years ago or anything. They're so old now I'm pretty sure they can't even have some of the latest tech and features installed in them because the electrical system is just not compatible.

 

It doesn’t deserve being axed. It deserves a hybrid version.

 

Yet another stupid, shortsighted decision. Par for the course these days, seemingly.

It took them forever to create a small CUV to compete in that segment and… they’re killing it?? Good God Cadillac is so ****ing stupid. Like no part of this makes sense at all. Not everyone wants an EV or Hybrid!

 

So Fairfax is only going to built the Bolt? Does GM really anticipate that much demand?

 

GM needs to learn about Hybrids, kind of a big deal these days

Agreed however I think they are still moving Cadillac to all EV and, I don't think I will follow at this point.

So Fairfax is only going to built the Bolt? Does GM really anticipate that much demand?

I can't see it UNLESS costs allow pricing that is super juicy.

That's surprising being that they just updated it. If this is for real, I have doubts that this is the right move to make with Cadillac's entry level vehicle. As gung-ho as I am on BEV's, the market has strongly demonstrated that it isn't time to pull the plug on ICE.

The recent update definitely make this surprising for sure but GM has done it before.

 

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I can't see it UNLESS costs allow pricing that is super juicy.
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If the updated Bolt has a “super juicy” price I’m buying one! Otherwise no sorry.

 

Can Barra go now?! Yes I understand under her GM is making money, but there are only a handful of compelling products! Getting to be like appliance like Toyota!

 

The XT4 has always been a mystery to me. On the surface, it seems like such a nicely designed and desirable small luxury SUV, particularly with the new interior. However, from the beginning with the first reviews, it got terrible ratings with respect to the 2.0L turbo engine being buzzy, noisy and unrefined. Even from people who had a rental or loaner. Yet the same engine in the CT4, CT5, and nearly identical Envision do not get the same poor reviews.

I thought surely that GM would solve this issue over the years. Sound deadening material? Noise cancellation?

 

Very short sighted. Not everyone wants an EV Cadillac and at the rate they are going...

 

The XT4 has always seemed expensive when the XT5 was only a few thousand more.

 

Probably their thinking as well. Why make two so similar in price? I am sure they will just try to upsell to the XT5.

 

Its the old GM all over again!! Update one of the newest and leave the old ones alone until we make a EV the same size as them!! SMFH Why must they cancel their newer models and not update the old ones?! Screw the EV market for now and redo the old af ones so it lines up with the new Escalade!!

 

Kill XT4, Kill CT6. Update XT5 and CT6 in another market. Also offer a GT4.

Leave gaps and dated products in your home market.

Awesome.

 

So, during investor day when they were touting plant flexibility, running EV's and ICE down the same line, that will only apply to Spring Hill?

This doesn't make sense, the XT4 only lives a few months longer than the Malibu!?

 

Speaking of the dated XT5, here is the new Chinese developed version.

 

How many times has GM done this: finally improve a model to the point it is desirable, and then cancel it (at least in the U.S.). Remember the CT6 with the original Blackwing engine? The Chevrolet SS with the LS3 and manual? We could go all the way back to the Fiero with the V-6.

And, somehow, GM thinks what is needed in the marketplace right now is a brand with no compact ICE crossover, because, you know, GLA, X3, Q3, GV60, NX, Corsair, RDX.

What's next: they make the Escalade a "sub-brand," offer it in pick-up and convertible versions, and cancel everything else?

 

Vistiq three-row SUV

GM's marketing dweebs put out the press release for Vistiq this morning. As an EV with a starting MSRP of about $79k, it will be a niche market product for sure:

Introducing the all-electric 2026 Cadillac VISTIQ

 

I'm surprised they came out with the (high) price in the PR.

Yikes, starting price a full $30,000 more than the XT6 it replaces?

 

I hate that their going all EV and for what theyre not going to sell that many EVs if they think theyre all going to sell...Better chance the CT4/CT5s sell out than the EVs at that price point....smh

 

Good points tajs0624. Perhaps Cadillac wants to become a low volume "boutique" brand within the next decade?