[91 s-10baja]

Video at link:
http://testdrivejunkie.com/1988-cadillac-voyage-concept-car/

 

[MCGARRETT]

HA!

AWD

4 Zone a/c

Nav

LED illumination

Pretty much sums up either the CTS4 or STS4

 

[BigAls87Z28]

So it took 20 something years to get from that concept to production.
Wowzers.
So Caddy had all this YEARS AGO!! And nothing was done about it.
Looks like a 91-96 Caprice. Front fender skirts!! YEAHHH!

 

[FenwickHockey65]

WTF?!
They had all that way back then and they're just putting it into cars??
Kinda makes you wonder what GM's building now that won't be used for 20-some years...

 

[BigAls87Z28]

Cien...Sixteen...hell, they havent built a world class V8 powered midsized sedan in...um...ever?
Realize that Caddy is in uncharted territory.
In related news...I wish Caddy would put the LS3 in the CTS.

 

[FenwickHockey65]

Cien...Sixteen...hell, they havent built a world class V8 powered midsized sedan in...um...ever?
Realize that Caddy is in uncharted territory.
In related news...I wish Caddy would put the LS3 in the CTS.

They already put a detuned LS9 into the CTS-V...
Unless you mean a regular CTS. In which case it would be pretty sweet.

 

[MCGARRETT]

Cien...Sixteen...hell, they havent built a world class V8 powered midsized sedan in...um...ever?

Good point, except the Cien has 12 cylinders and the Sixteen has.....um.....hold it.......16.

So whats your point?


Concept cars that sit on a turntable are one thing, making something that is going to be used day in and day out every day by somtimes the lowest common denominator.

Or would you have rather have them rushed some more poorly planned ideas into production only to have to continue working on them while other manufacturers learn from GM's mistakes?

Hell GM has had a HUD on Pontiacs since 1989 an it was only until a couple of years ago that holy of holys BMW offered on, and then it was on the M5 and M6.

 

[Andonis]

more videos like this please!!!

 

[johnstarnes]

Thanks much! The year it came out I was blown away and even now I find the profile stunning...am using that as my wallpaper after someone here recently shared a link to a site with concept pics. That fall, a front view was on the cover of Auto Week with the bold title "The Car Cadillac MUST Build"...the guy who owns Dominos pizza tried to write Roger Smith a check for something like $20 million to pay back all the development costs right there on the Detroit Auto Show floor. Roger Smith declined the check AND killed both the Voyage and sister car Solitaire before negotiating for himself a sickeningly huge retirement package (after having ravaged GM and laying off thousands of workers) and leaving GM. At one point this car WAS to have been launched as a 1991 model....I am convinced that had it and the Solitaire been built, Cadillac would have not begun to sink in sales and prestige. Even today, both cars would look awesome on the road or in a parking lot. Sadly, GM's penchant for NOT putting into production its best concepts, including those by Cadillac (Cien, Sixteen) continues...and they wonder why they languish as others leap frog past them year after year.

 

[zete]

Unbelievable.

And they also had hybrid technology 20 years back.

GM seems to love sitting on the future, instead of just providing it.

Sigh.

 

[91 s-10baja]

more videos like this please!!!

haha, working on it! check out my youtube page (see sig below) pretty much daily as I put more up as fast as I can!

 

[megeebee]

The Voyage did have an effect on production Cadillacs. I see a lot of its influence in the '94 Deville.

 

[johnstarnes]

I wonder if there is a similar video about either the Cadillac Solitaire or Pontiac Pursuit?

 

[Mr. Burns]

Interesting car to say the least, but again far from my kind of car. It seems it was designed at a time when aero trumped all. It looks like the Cadillac of priuses.

Thanks much! The year it came out I was blown away and even now I find the profile stunning...am using that as my wallpaper after someone here recently shared a link to a site with concept pics. That fall, a front view was on the cover of Auto Week with the bold title "The Car Cadillac MUST Build"...the guy who owns Dominos pizza tried to write Roger Smith a check for something like $20 million to pay back all the development costs right there on the Detroit Auto Show floor. Roger Smith declined the check AND killed both the Voyage and sister car Solitaire before negotiating for himself a sickeningly huge retirement package (after having ravaged GM and laying off thousands of workers) and leaving GM. At one point this car WAS to have been launched as a 1991 model....I am convinced that had it and the Solitaire been built, Cadillac would have not begun to sink in sales and prestige. Even today, both cars would look awesome on the road or in a parking lot. Sadly, GM's penchant for NOT putting into production its best concepts, including those by Cadillac (Cien, Sixteen) continues...and they wonder why they languish as others leap frog past them year after year.

You have to keep in mind that going from concept car to production is a very difficult task indeed, especially when the concept car is so radical like caddy's have been. With the industry being so risky, and development costs high, putting a radical car on the road could ultimately be a loss. I'm sure the boys at GM can figure out when and if producing some of these cars will be worth it.

 

[Mr. Burns]

haha, working on it! check out my youtube page (see sig below) pretty much daily as I put more up as fast as I can!

Do you have any stand alone reviews for the 300zx?

 

[91 s-10baja]

Do you have any stand alone reviews for the 300zx?

Not sure yet, I am still only on 1990 and have 18 more seasons to go through

I think you are referring to the comparison test I have?

 

[Mr. Burns]

Not sure yet, I am still only on 1990 and have 18 more seasons to go through

I think you are referring to the comparison test I have?

yeah I saw that, pretty awesome! But I would like a more in depth stand alone review, rather than a performance based comparison test. I think it would be cool to see some import sedan reviews as well, like the camcords, to see how they started to take a bite out of the marketshare.

Either way these are all very cool, especially for someone like me who was barely alive when all this was going on! so thanks for posting

 

[paul8488]

The Voyage did have an effect on production Cadillacs. I see a lot of its influence in the '94 Deville.

I agree. I really see it too, even if the Voyage is much sleeker.

I love that they had a NAV screen back then!

 

[Astra RL]

Why if they could did they not.
What they could have done.

1989 Fleetwood
AWD std. With all of the features mentioned above, this is rear biased all wheel drive true competition for the Germans/Japanese
120" wheelbase/210" length
5.0l V8 330 HP-five speed auto
6.0l V12 375 HP-five speed auto

1990 Deville
RWD. AWD opt. 22 way seats, optional navigation, 3 zone climate control, heated front/rear seats.
115" wheelbase/201" length
4.2l V8 275 HP-five speed auto
4.6l V8 300 HP-five speed auto

1992 Seville
RWD. AWD opt. 16 way seats, 3 zone climate control, CRT screen from Buick Reatta
109" wheelbase/194" length
3.7l V6 240 HP-four speed auto
4.0l V8 260 HP-five speed auto
Eldorado has the 4.0l standard with a firmer suspension

1991 Calais
RWD 16 way seats, 3 zone climate control
104" wheelbase/186" length
3.3l V6 215 HP-five speed manual/four speed auto
3.5l V6 230 HP-five speed manual/four speed auto

1990 Allante
RWD 2 seat roadster what it was supposed to be.
5.0l V8 330 HP-five speed auto

This is to make up for the many oopses of the eighties V-8-6-4, HT4100, Cimarron, and FWD.

 

[BigAls87Z28]

Good point, except the Cien has 12 cylinders and the Sixteen has.....um.....hold it.......16.

So whats your point?


.

My point is that from the out of the world concepts like this car to the sixteen/cien cars, to just even making a solid midsized sport luxury sedan with a V8 engine, Caddy hasnt gotten there yet.