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Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut
Could be called the XT5
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February 17, 2015


It looks like the Cadillac CT6 will be getting some company at the New York Auto Show as Motor Trend is reporting the SRX successor will also debut in the city that never sleeps.

Cadillac has been relatively tight-lipped about the crossover but it is expected to adopt the XT5 moniker and feature a more stylish design with shorter front overhangs. Engine options remain unconfirmed but could include a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder with 272 bhp (203 kW) and a 3.6-liter V6 with 321 bhp (239 kW).

Additional information is limited but the model is expected to ride on the new C1XX / Chi platform that will eventually underpin a number of other crossovers including the Buick Enclave, Chevy Traverse and GMC Acadia.

Motor Trend said:
Cadillac SRX to Debut in New York

The desperately needed replacement for Cadillac’s SRX crossover is right around the corner. We think you’ll see it at the next New York show and we expect it to adopt the new XT_ naming structure.

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I'm surprised, because it is supposed to go into production in the spring of 2016 and I doubt that reveal a year before starting production. I think there are two possibilities:

1) In New York will present a concept very close to the production model (think something like the Lincoln MKX Concept); and the final version will debut in Los Angeles.

2) The production schedule will be forwarded by the end of this year (in view of the drop in sales), and indeed the final version will be released in New York with the CT6.

I lean more towards the first option... We'll see!
 

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So Cadillac will be selling a car called the XTS while releasing a CUV called the XT5. I know the XTS has one foot out the door, but of all the letters and numbers in this world, that's hilarious! I don't mind the new scheming though. XT_ for crossovers, and CT_ for cars. Not too bad, although the Escalade better NEVER become the XT7 or XT9.


As for this new model, I'm curious to see if it will be offered in a 5 and 7 passenger setup with the ladder seeing China. The platform, being on the long side, could provide a cavernous interior for a 5 pass setup in the US. But the biggest question on my mind is will this Caddy continue the big-butt tradition of GM crossovers?
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

I'm surprised, because it is supposed to go into production in the spring of 2016 and I doubt that reveal a year before starting production. I think there are two possibilities:

1) In New York will present a concept very close to the production model (think something like the Lincoln MKX Concept); and the final version will debut in Los Angeles.

2) The production schedule will be forwarded by the end of this year (in view of the drop in sales), and indeed the final version will be released in New York with the CT6.

I lean more towards the first option... We'll see!
Where do you get spring of '16 from? The stuff I've been reading about the start of XT5 production at Spring Hill indicate production will be "soon". A year and a quarter doesn't sound "soon" to me!

BTW if you wanted to introduce the new naming scheme, doing it with both a "truck" (XT5) and a car (CT6)with their different naming conventions would be the way to do it, so this makes sense.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

I'm surprised, because it is supposed to go into production in the spring of 2016 and I doubt that reveal a year before starting production.
Well, it is Motor Trend.....

And I couldn't find the article on Motor Trends site. The link at World Car Fans is to a story about the Chevy SS.


Where do you get spring of '16 from? The stuff I've been reading about the start of XT5 production at Spring Hill indicate production will be "soon". A year and a quarter doesn't sound "soon" to me!
I think Johann had said Spring '16 (Q1) in a recent interview.

The XT5, or what ever it's called, will have some very big shoes to fill. For all the vitriol and arm-chair-know-it-all posts that appear here, it's been incredibly successful for Cadillac.
 
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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

Looks like the New York auto show will be the Cadillac show! That's good since they just moved the headquarters there. I guess I read wrong before because I thought the XT5 was going to be smaller than the current SRX to make room for a larger one above it.
 

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I guess I read wrong before because I thought the XT5 was going to be smaller than the current SRX to make room for a larger one above it.
Perhaps the new platform can accommodate different size vehicles?
 

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I do not know how I feel about them throwing away the customer recognition of the SRX name.

It is a very successful product.

That said, the new one should go up in price quite a bit, so it would probably alienate a lot of existing customers anyway.
 

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I think Johann had said Spring '16 (Q1) in a recent interview.

The XT5, or what ever it's called, will have some very big shoes to fill. For all the vitriol and arm-chair-know-it-all posts that appear here, it's been incredibly successful for Cadillac.
But other sources have said end of 15, and pegged the Acadia in spring 16. Maybe it's a difference between commencement of production and full availability at dealerships?
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

I'm surprised, because it is supposed to go into production in the spring of 2016 and I doubt that reveal a year before starting production. I think there are two possibilities:

1) In New York will present a concept very close to the production model (think something like the Lincoln MKX Concept); and the final version will debut in Los Angeles.

2) The production schedule will be forwarded by the end of this year (in view of the drop in sales), and indeed the final version will be released in New York with the CT6.

I lean more towards the first option... We'll see!
I was under the impression it was going on sale much sooner.

Also, given that it's Cadillac's first "big year" and the New York show will represent a lot of things, I wouldn't be surprised if it were just the full car.

New York is a huge market for Cadillac. New York is Cadillac's new hometown. It's their inaugural year in New York and, with their new management, their first serious step towards relevancy with the debut of CT6 right across the floor.

If anything, this leads me to believe that CT6 might debut elsewhere before the show (if only a week or two, max).

I'm happy I won't have to wait too long to see the new SRX up close, as I thought I would have. I'm excited for the show.

So Cadillac will be selling a car called the XTS while releasing a CUV called the XT5. I know the XTS has one foot out the door, but of all the letters and numbers in this world, that's hilarious! I don't mind the new scheming though. XT_ for crossovers, and CT_ for cars. Not too bad, although the Escalade better NEVER become the XT7 or XT9.


As for this new model, I'm curious to see if it will be offered in a 5 and 7 passenger setup with the ladder seeing China. The platform, being on the long side, could provide a cavernous interior for a 5 pass setup in the US. But the biggest question on my mind is will this Caddy continue the big-butt tradition of GM crossovers?
This begs the question that, if MyImpalaSS is to be believed that CT5 will be a midsize coupe, could they have engineered the cadence so that, when CTS receives its MCE and is renamed (as I believe it is supposed to be), then they will release CT5, so as to avoid an XTS/XT5 type of situation?

Well, it is Motor Trend.....

And I couldn't find the article on Motor Trends site. The link at World Car Fans is to a story about the Chevy SS.




I think Johann had said Spring '16 (Q1) in a recent interview.

The XT5, or what ever it's called, will have some very big shoes to fill. For all the vitriol and arm-chair-know-it-all posts that appear here, it's been incredibly successful for Cadillac.
XT5 will never fill SRX's shoes. It'll be too expensive to move the same volume. They're releasing smaller crossovers, too, but neither of those will offer the same price:size value as SRX.

SRX is a great value and I think it's a decent car, but I also think it's bug-eyed and mediocre Cadillac (which is still undefined).

Looks like the New York auto show will be the Cadillac show! That's good since they just moved the headquarters there. I guess I read wrong before because I thought the XT5 was going to be smaller than the current SRX to make room for a larger one above it.
I could think of worse shows.

SRX is already midsize-ish. XT5 will be a little bit bigger, I thought. There's still more than enough room above it for a full-size crossover.

Perhaps the new platform can accommodate different size vehicles?
I'm under the impression (with no evidence) that it'll probably be two wheelbases. One for Acadia/SRX, the other for Enclave/Traverse.

I do not know how I feel about them throwing away the customer recognition of the SRX name.

It is a very successful product.

That said, the new one should go up in price quite a bit, so it would probably alienate a lot of existing customers anyway.
Exactly. CTS was a highly recognized product... that is now unrecognizable in configuration.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

But other sources have said end of 15, and pegged the Acadia in spring 16. Maybe it's a difference between commencement of production and full availability at dealerships?
I couldn't say. I was just mentioning what I remembered. You may be correct.

In any case, perhaps as GMSilverado speculates, we might see a concept at New York. But I still think it's a bit early to show it. I wonder if they'd hold it for LA in November, ahead of a March-April production start.
 

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So I wonder if we might get a look at the XT5 exterior at the end of the Academy Awards commercials as is rumored (Confirmed?) for the CT6?
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

I couldn't say. I was just mentioning what I remembered. You may be correct.

In any case, perhaps as GMSilverado speculates, we might see a concept at New York. But I still think it's a bit early to show it. I wonder if they'd hold it for LA in November, ahead of a March-April production start.
I think it'll be the full beaver. GM doesn't really waste time with concepts when they're actual debut is months away. My guess is XT5 is on sale by November/December to go w/ the CT6.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

But other sources have said end of 15, and pegged the Acadia in spring 16. Maybe it's a difference between commencement of production and full availability at dealerships?
I think it'll be the full beaver. GM doesn't really waste time with concepts when they're actual debut is months away. My guess is XT5 is on sale by November/December to go w/ the CT6.
Found it:

From the lips of Mr. De Nysschen:

Next year we will have full-year availability of the CT6, but once again that is a high profile but not high volume. During 2016, the new SRX will be introduced..
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/...ll-smaller-more-affordable-yet-faster-193729/

Interesting, he used "SRX" and not XT5.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

SRX is already midsize-ish. XT5 will be a little bit bigger, I thought. There's still more than enough room above it for a full-size crossover.
What do you mean "midsize-ish?"
It's dimensions are nearly the same as M-Class. SRX is slightly longer and the M is about 0.5" wider. The difference is that the M is 5" taller than SRX.

Enclave is 10" longer and 3" wider and 7" taller than SRX. Those dimensions are closer to GL-Class -- 202" x 84.3" x 72.8".


So long as the XT5 is about 190" in length and 76" in width, it'll be fine. An "XT7" can be the LWB version of the XT5. That would give the 2 CUV's a similar relationship to the M and GL-Class.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

Where do you get spring of '16 from? The stuff I've been reading about the start of XT5 production at Spring Hill indicate production will be "soon". A year and a quarter doesn't sound "soon" to me!

BTW if you wanted to introduce the new naming scheme, doing it with both a "truck" (XT5) and a car (CT6)with their different naming conventions would be the way to do it, so this makes sense.
In almost every article I've read concerning the substitute SRX, speak of a production start "early 2016"... However, in a fairly detailed report on the Automotive News guide to future GM products discussed, specifically, that production will begin in the spring of 2016.

A pity that I can not get it... I remember that with this publication inaugurated the "Guide of Future Product" section (with detailed information about each manufacturer launches) and included this image that I saved:



Note: keep in mind that it is a timeline to market arrival/production start, not of presentations in Auto Shows.

In Automotive News I only managed to get this article (with similar information), that includes the following:
SRX: A redesign of the mid-sized crossover is due in early 2016 as a '16 model, when North American production is expected to shift to GM's Spring Hill, Tenn., plant, from Ramos Arizpe, Mexico. The crossover should keep its 3.6-liter V-6 engine, and should be among the first vehicles to get the nine-speed fwd gearbox.
More arguments supporting my theory:


  • The first prototypes of substitute SRX were captured on October 30, 2014. That is, the field test began less than four months ago... In contrast, the first mule CT6 was captured in August 2013 and the first prototypes in January 2014.

  • Excerpt from an article in The Detroit News:
    Cadillac spokesman David Caldwell said a new naming system will be coming for crossovers, but offered no details. The company will build a next-generation SRX, which Cadillac said will be shown in fall 2015. He said the Escalade name will stay.

This last point locates the revelation of substitute SRX at the Auto Show in Los Angeles 2015, and is consistent with Automotive News information to which I refer; since, in general, vehicles GM shows approximately 6 months before the start of production - arrival market.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

I doubt we'll see a XT5 concept, Cadillac hasn't done that "concept, but really almost production" thing since in the XTS Platinum Concept was introduced.
 

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Re: Cadillac SRX successor slated for a New York debut

Well, it is Motor Trend.....

And I couldn't find the article on Motor Trends site. The link at World Car Fans is to a story about the Chevy SS.
It's actually a "MT Confidential" which speaks of the SS, the replacement of the SRX and Porsche turbo engines... Read the sub-title and third paragraph. Here
 

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I doubt we'll see a XT5 concept, Cadillac hasn't done that "concept, but really almost production" thing since in the XTS Platinum Concept was introduced.
I hope it doesn't look stubby and has RWD proportions ;)
 
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