[0fxxk0]

So far, I approve. I hope Cadillac has learned their lesson with pricing. If they are going to get current SRX buyers back and get RX owners to take notice, they are going to have to avoid the price shock they pulled with the CTS.

Personally, a two row CUV like this is too small to be of serious consideration for me, but it does leave me hopeful for what a three row XT6/7 will bring to the table. The MDX can use the competition.

All This talk of the XT5 being a Acura and Lexus fighter......Isn't that what Buick is supposed to be doing while Cadillac takes on the big boys?.

 

[MiatsoCi]

Are we sure these pics aren't from a Caddy dealer lot?
I mean, people are just walking by and not even noticing it!!

:lmao: NO

Just like they do with the SRX right??? Then they do a double take.. get happy in their panties, run to the bank and get a check ready for down payment.

Sitting right there at #26.. not to shabby being above the MDX and X5, and next luxo away from the RX. And Before anyone says it.. ATP on the SRX vs the RX (according to True Car ) is almost identical. at $43K for both

 

[Ridgeback12345]

It needs a chromed lower intake. The grille is just too high and heavy looking.

It doesnt need anything in the front! It looks great!

 

[mgescuro]

All This talk of the XT5 being a Acura and Lexus fighter......Isn't that what Buick is supposed to be doing while Cadillac takes on the big boys?.

Well... You're not wrong.
Ultimately, the problem is Cadillac doesn't have a platform that a "proper" and "competitive" CUV can rid on. And if it does, they're not using it effectively.

So, Cadillac has to create a positive spin on it. So, they do the only thing they can do -- fly one in by helicopter into Manhattan.

 

[MiatsoCi]

Well... You're not wrong.
Ultimately, the problem is Cadillac doesn't have a platform that a "proper" and "competitive" CUV can rid on. And if it does, they're not using it effectively.

So, Cadillac has to create a positive spin on it. So, they do the only thing they can do -- fly one in by helicopter into Manhattan.

The SRX/XT5 platform is just as competent as the FWD Benz platform and most likely better... and U know it.

The Helicopter thing over Manhattan... was just BOSS

 

[MiatsoCi]

Dark interior Shot

 

[Envoy4Life]

Has anyone noticed the difference in grilles?

I like the grille in the official photo shoot model better. I hope the more recent pictures aren't some dumb, last minute change.

Platinum vs. Non-Platinum I think.

Dark interior Shot

No ambient lighting?

 

[Dequindre]

Platinum vs. Non-Platinum I think.



No ambient lighting?

That cut over the central dash makes it look symmetrical, so maybe there is a wrap covering any ambient lighting that may be there.

 

[Amphibian]

The SRX/XT5 platform is just as competent as the FWD Benz platform and most likely better.

With all due respect, I think that's doubtful. Obviously we know little about the new platform, but it's probably similar in concept to the current one, as most new platforms are to their predecessor. The Grand Cherokee-M-GL platform is plenty capable off-road while being refined on road, and as a basis allows for very powerful engine options. The SRX's mainstream roots (hybrid platform or otherwise) means you can't put a 550 horsepower V-8 in it, and with items like the chin it's no rival off-road either, even ignoring MB's available off-road package or extra off-roading options on the Jeep. And I'm not being anti-Cadillac here. The Lexus RX and Acura MDX have the same problem. Their basic platform, transmissions, and so on are all adapted from more humble vehicles and therefore do not support what it takes to offer a full line that can compete with the more prominent and expensive German rivals. Off-roading isn't a requirement here, but I'm just mentioning the merits of that specific platform. While it's entirely possible that the new XT5 or MKX or RX are modified sufficiently to accommodate more powerful and exclusive options that would raise the image and ATPs, at this point I think it's doubtful as none of them have intentions of doing so with these products. They're still entry-luxury products. Which again is totally fine and not a problem, but that doesn't mean it's an equal to some of the better platforms.

 

[MiatsoCi]

With all due respect, I think that's doubtful. Obviously we know little about the new platform, but it's probably similar in concept to the current one, as most new platforms are to their predecessor. The Grand Cherokee-M-GL platform is plenty capable off-road while being refined on road, and as a basis allows for very powerful engine options. The SRX's mainstream roots (hybrid platform or otherwise) means you can't put a 550 horsepower V-8 in it, and with items like the chin it's no rival off-road either, even ignoring MB's available off-road package or extra off-roading options on the Jeep. And I'm not being anti-Cadillac here. The Lexus RX and Acura MDX have the same problem. Their basic platform, transmissions, and so on are all adapted from more humble vehicles and therefore do not support what it takes to offer a full line that can compete with the more prominent and expensive German rivals. Off-roading isn't a requirement here, but I'm just mentioning the merits of that specific platform. While it's entirely possible that the new XT5 or MKX or RX are modified sufficiently to accommodate more powerful and exclusive options that would raise the image and ATPs, at this point I think it's doubtful as none of them have intentions of doing so with these products. They're still entry-luxury products. Which again is totally fine and not a problem, but that doesn't mean it's an equal to some of the better platforms.

No respect needed... U don't depend on me for food, shelter, or clothes on your back ...

The last I checked the M-GL is not FWD. I'm pretty confident that the new xT5 will be competent enough to still deal with those as well. If not the .09 % they will be off-road then the 99.01% of the time they will be cruising to the local Starbucks.

 

[CaddyLac10]

With all due respect, I think that's doubtful. Obviously we know little about the new platform, but it's probably similar in concept to the current one, as most new platforms are to their predecessor. The Grand Cherokee-M-GL platform is plenty capable off-road while being refined on road, and as a basis allows for very powerful engine options. The SRX's mainstream roots (hybrid platform or otherwise) means you can't put a 550 horsepower V-8 in it, and with items like the chin it's no rival off-road either, even ignoring MB's available off-road package or extra off-roading options on the Jeep. And I'm not being anti-Cadillac here. The Lexus RX and Acura MDX have the same problem. Their basic platform, transmissions, and so on are all adapted from more humble vehicles and therefore do not support what it takes to offer a full line that can compete with the more prominent and expensive German rivals. Off-roading isn't a requirement here, but I'm just mentioning the merits of that specific platform. While it's entirely possible that the new XT5 or MKX or RX are modified sufficiently to accommodate more powerful and exclusive options that would raise the image and ATPs, at this point I think it's doubtful as none of them have intentions of doing so with these products. They're still entry-luxury products. Which again is totally fine and not a problem, but that doesn't mean it's an equal to some of the better platforms.

He said Chi is likely just as competent, if not better, than the FWD platform that Benz is using. In that regards, I agree.

However, I do agree with your point about the ultimate limitations of FWD vs RWD. I'm sure the XT5 will sell well but it is not in line with Cadillac's current direction in terms of performance and proportions.

Over a period of time, these things will matter for Cadillac. It's what people will remember and know Cadillac for. There needs to be a laser like focus and consistency on every product for Cadillac, in every aspect, to become known for something.

The XT5 won't hurt Cadillac for now but it could have been an opportunity to enhance their current direction that much more.

 

[Amphibian]

WHOOPS. Nevermind my statements. Even when MiatsoCi clarified I wasn't paying enough attention.

I agree with him in that statement, then.

 

[Frank Nitty]

I really like the direct front and rear. The front is aggressive and the rear has just a smidge of wings to it. Both modern yet references the past. It looks like the only real issue is the sides, where the stubby hood and FWD proportions limit its sheer style. Not that it'll affect sales of course. The rear also looks wide in that picture.

Really want to see the interior.

If you pause the video of the Manhattan flyover @1:04 you can get a glimpse of the dash.

 

[johnls_39]

The XT5 was a vehicle that was already developed way before JDN joined Cadillac. This could be the last FWD crossover Cadillac before the RWD successor comes out in '22-'23.

I have no doubt the XT5 will be excellent but the XT5 product placement have already been set in stone before the new management joined Cadillac. There will be future updates on the current products and certain details of luxury and features will be addressed in few years.

 

[CadillacChick]

Coming from a 2011 CTS premium and now a 2013 ATS 2.0t performance I like this design a lot more than the watered down bland 2015-16 ATS and previous gen SRX...
I Never thought I would be interested in a SUV but I like it..
Hopefully this one is better quality wise compared to the ATS & CTS and I am hoping this one doesn't have the hvac smell problems of the previously mentioned models..
And maybe GM won't recall this one after 2 years and delete/disable the defroster during remote starts like they are doing with the 2013-16 ATS's..

 

[sfbreh]

Dark interior Shot

New shifter. I don't see a manual shift gate... I remain sad.

Where'd you find it?

PS... who's going to be the first to complain about having 3-4 different shifters?

No ambient lighting?

That cut over the central dash makes it look symmetrical, so maybe there is a wrap covering any ambient lighting that may be there.

I think it's more likely it was disabled or removed to not give away too much of the interior.

This could be the last FWD crossover Cadillac before the RWD successor comes out in '22-'23.

Except for the two smaller crossovers coming in the near future.

 

[paul8488]

The Macan and Evoque are everywhere in Shanghai. Lots of Cayennes, Range Rovers, Touaregs, and X6s too. I see few MB crossovers except for that dinky I-forget-what-it's-called-hopped-up-Outback/AllRoad-style-thingy. There are a decent number of SRXs, but they really are starting to look dated and blend in. I'm even pleasantly surprised to be noticing more and more MKCs and the odd MKX. I hope they have the XT5 on high priority for China, because the market is begging for luxury SUVs.

Oh, and they're not super common yet, but the DS CUVs look fantastic. And they have awesome boutiques, only matched by Lincoln in China right now. Haven't spent much time in the German showrooms, but the few I have seen are nice, but nothing special. And the only two Cadillac showrooms I have been in are pretty low-budget. They've been established here for a while, and I think it's time for a facelift. They just look a bit worn and dated, same as many in the US.

 

[sfbreh]

Dark interior Shot

I brightened one I found. You can't see much more, maybe someone else can do better.

Shifter looks good. Interior is as expected... riff off CT6.

 

[analogbubbles]

I hope they have the XT5 on high priority for China, because the market is begging for luxury SUVs.

They start local production soon, which should increase sales a bunch.

 

[Amphibian]

I really hope this looks good IRL.