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I haven't seen this link posted yet; sorry if it's a repost. The article is dated 15 Jan 2008 so it's not extremely new. I enjoyed the video.

Bloomberg: Lets talk about Toyota. You know those guys. They came out yesterday and said they are going to have a plug-in electric car on the market by 2010. That's the year that you said as well. So who is going to win this race?
Bob Lutz: Well, I think it's immaterial who comes out a couple of months ahead of somebody else. And notice that they said they didn't say plug-in electric car, they said plug-in hybrid. That will be our Saturn Vue plug-in hybrid which still relies mostly on the gasoline engine coupled to a hybrid system which improves your mileage and it will have about an 8 to, maybe somewhere between 8 and 12 mile electric range. Not to be confused with the Chevrolet Volt, which is a genuine electric vehicle, which operates electrically all the time with the engine only coming in, in case of absolute necessity to recharge the battery.
Bloomberg is obviously biased against GM. His tone just irks me. I'm surprised maximum Bob didn't tear him up. Bob also tells us that the internal release goal date of the Chevy Volt is November 2010.

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Bloomberg: Lets clarify about the Volt though. Because it depends on a lithium-ion battery. You're still trying to figure out how to fully develop that technology. You're still sure you are going to have that ready for 2010? Can you give me a guarantee right now? (Smiles and laughs.)
Bob Lutz: (Sighs.) Yes and no. Yes, I guarantee that the official internal General Motors target date is November 2010. You know, so far, the batteries are not a hold up. All of the testing, bench testing we are doing on battery packs, they fully meet our expectations.
 

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I think we discussed this before but didn't Honda come out with the first Hybrid in North America? And is was just like the GM BAS system where the Electric Motor helped with power and didn't move the car on its own? But Toyota still came to dominate so Maxy Bob is right, it doesn't matter who comes out first, it who markets it the best.....
 

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Right now, seeing as how last I heard, the prius plug in hybrid has a 7 mile electric range or something like that, I think we've won.
Yeah, the Vue Plug in beats that. Is there any thought to adding the plug in option to the GMT900 2-modes?
 

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Right now, seeing as how last I heard, the prius plug in hybrid has a 7 mile electric range or something like that, I think we've won.
We only win if the average buying public knows this fact.... Pick a random guy/gal at the office/work site and ask him who makes the best hybrid...

I will bet that 70% say Toyota, 15% say Honda, 10% say Ford. and 5% will say whats a hybird?

Ever see a Vue hybrid ad? Me neither... The only hybrids GM are "pushing" right now are the full size ute's... People that are worried about hybrids or saving the planet aren't buying these cars anyway...

Lets get in the game here!
 

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Immaterial who is first on the EVs??? I guess that means GM won't be first b/c if they were they'd be bragging "we were first to offer electric vehicles" blah blah blah.
 

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Not sure about that, but I bet you'd get great fuel economy out of that combination. Close to 30 maybe?
That would be awesome. Imagine that in a Malibu or even Cobalt? Why does GM wait so long to apply this obviously superior technology to smaller vehicles? Wouldn't the R&D costs be paid off faster if they implemented it in more vehicles? I must be misinformed about how the whole R&D costs really work. Or is it politics?
 

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That would be awesome. Imagine that in a Malibu or even Cobalt? Why does GM wait so long to apply this obviously superior technology to smaller vehicles?
Ding Ding Ding...

We HAVE A WINNER... since about 1990 GM has turned its back on the small car space and has put almost all of their eggs into the full size truck market.

As a result GM builds the BEST full size trucks on the planet!

To bad that the market for these vehicles is shrinking FAST. GM managment has painted themselves into a corner. Shinking market for the trucks, no money to develop smaller cars. Catch 22.
 
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