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Autosavant - By J.S. Smith

I am hardly a snarky, cheer-as-the-Titanic-sinks sneerful spectator. I root for the home team and I’m a life-long member of the GM family. Indeed, I worked on the assembly line many years ago at Lansing’s GM North Assembly Plant making Grand Ams and Achievas.

But GM’s management is quite simply stupid. Astonishingly so. Case in point from Autoblog:

Testing of the Chevy Beat is officially underway. . . The Beat will make its production debut sometime in 2010 and will go on sale in Europe in early 2011. As previously reported, the Beat won't be making the trek to the U.S. until it meets the fed's crash-test standards, so we won't get a shot at the Beat until the next generation arrives – whenever that is.

The monumental short-sightedness of not bothering to have the Beat US-certified boggles the mind. It qualifies as less a business move than a bowel movement. The people in charge at GM shouldn’t get salaries from anyone. They should be cleaning chewing gum from sidewalks.

This is particularly egregious in light of the fact that Toyota is bringing the 2009 Yaris 5-door hatch to the states. And Ford’s decision to build some of its tasty Euro models in North America. Even more offensive is the fact that when the Beat (as well as the Trax and Groove) was first displayed at the 2007 New York Auto Show - yes, in the US - and GM had the nerve to pretend that there was a possibility of one or more of the models might be sold in the US if they were well-received by the media and public. Well, they were well-received, partially because of a contest sponsored by GM for the public to vote for their favorite of the three, but it was later revealed that GM had no intent of ever selling them in the US - at least in their first generation. (N.B.: You can still vote on the site; since the Beat was in the lead with 887,666 votes, at least GM may have been listening to customers by greenlighting that one for production, although they mostly were asking US consumers and not the global audience that will get the car instead.)
 

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I could not agree MORE!

Second...show so many shots and videos of the Camaro 3 years before it comes out that by the time it's here, it's yesterday's news....

Third....no manuals in their best selling models... I'd buy a 4 cylinder 5 speed manual Malibu TODAY if they offered one...Honda does on the Accord

Fourth....who here can name all the Saturn models....bet a lot can't.. GM spends about $0 on Saturn Advertising...
 

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Third....no manuals in their best selling models... I'd buy a 4 cylinder 5 speed manual Malibu TODAY if they offered one...Honda does on the Accord
The manual transmission XFE model represented 13% of Cobalt sales in May.

GM needs a Malibu XFE if for nothing else, simply to advertise a lower price point to draw customers into dealerships...like Toyota does with its manual transmission Camry.

Possible reason for NOT doing this? The MPG figures for a "Malibu XFE" may be higher than those of the existing Malibu hybrid model. This would not look very good in the marketplace.
 

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Fourth....who here can name all the Saturn models....bet a lot can't.. GM spends about $0 on Saturn Advertising...
Astra, Aura, Outlook, Sky and Vue. :D Do I get a cookie now?
 

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I would love the opportunity to sit down with GMs executives just to ask why they continue to run GM into the ground. Is there a larger plan that we arent aware of or are they just completely inept at seeing and meeting the long term needs of the company?
 

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What I hate most about the Beat situation is that GM had us vote a couple years back on which models that they should produce and the Beat won by a wide margin, both here and abroad. So I want to know is how did this car get designed WITHOUT the US market in mind?
 

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Excellent article, I agree 100%.

The funny thing is that there are plenty of people on GMI that continue to defend Wagoner and company. Why? Is it blind loyalty? I think harsh criticism of the management for their ineptitude is necessary in these tough times.
 

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Excellent article, I agree 100%.

The funny thing is that there are plenty of people on GMI that continue to defend Wagoner and company. Why? Is it blind loyalty? I think harsh criticism of the management for their ineptitude is necessary in these tough times.
Or maybe these people know things about the company that most can't see past the media?
 

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I could not agree MORE!

Second...show so many shots and videos of the Camaro 3 years before it comes out that by the time it's here, it's yesterday's news....

Third....no manuals in their best selling models... I'd buy a 4 cylinder 5 speed manual Malibu TODAY if they offered one...Honda does on the Accord

Fourth....who here can name all the Saturn models....bet a lot can't.. GM spends about $0 on Saturn Advertising...

A six-speed stick Malibu LTZ would be great, but alas we're a dying breed of drivers.
 

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What I don't get is how GM can say they want to make world cars and then create a car -- the Beat -- that won't meet US standards? How is this even possible. If it's a "world car" then it meets the highest standards, thereby being certifiable everywhere.

It boggles my mind. And the ONLY excuse I can accept is "It is certifiable, and we lied to throw folks off." Other than that, stupid is the only polite word I can think of.
 

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Yet GM's CEOs get salaries that boggle the mind more than their inept decisions do. Hey, hire me and let ME screw up GM further for just 5% of Wagoner's or Lutz's pay!
To be fair compared to CEOs of other companies, they don't make that much. Not saying that they don't make a lot, just that it's nowhere near as much as other screwballs do to run a company into the ground.
 

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I'm sorry to say I have to agree. I was always under the assumption that the US would get this model. I'm also very tired of Europe and Austrailia getting all the good product and North America being treated like a stepchild by GM. Foe once GM actually has the right product mix for the US but sadly they are not selling it here.
 

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Autosavant Editorial Asks: "Is Anyone Dumber Than a GM Executive?"
There aren't many, but I count one who resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and I count about 485 who work in Congress. My bad, they're headed for vacation. They might possbly rank higher on a list of "Who's the dumbest of them all?" Take the management at GM, multiply the harm that's been done by them many-fold, and you start to get an idea of how bad the Federal government is mismanaged.
 

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Second...show so many shots and videos of the Camaro 3 years before it comes out that by the time it's here, it's yesterday's news....
You clearly have no idea why it took GM so long do you? Not because they show the concept means they can bring it to production right away. There are a load of politics and contracts behind why the Camaro couldn't come back sooner than it is now.

GM got a $200,000,000 interest FREE loan from Quebec (not due till 2017!! ) and $100,000,000 in tax breaks in 1987 to produce the 4th gen Camaro there. As long as GM has an outstanding balance on it's NO INTEREST LOAN from Quebec, it can not make anything called Camaro or Firebird.

In that same agreement (done in 1987 NOT 1997) Ste. Therese won an exclusive agreement from GM to produce Camaros & Firebirds.... yes, and exclusive agreement! GM must replace the jobs lost at Ste Therese with expanded jobs at other plants or has to pay a pension to anyone left who hasn't been rehired. GM would also be demonstrating bad faith if they made an announcement or indicated they were OFFICIALLY moving ahead with the Camaro before all loans were paid, all CAW workers laid off were rehired, and the Ste Therese plant was either sold or leveled!

Fourth....who here can name all the Saturn models....bet a lot can't.. GM spends about $0 on Saturn Advertising...
You are right, but Canada tried something different lately and all of Saturn's sales went up by double digits, the Astra up 78%.
 

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What is crazy is GM managers get payed for saying things like.
People do not want small cars.
People will buy small cars only if price of fuel is $8 per gallon
People do not want hybrids they think they are joke
People want big tahoe hybrid
Pontiac is BMW (that is a joke luzt)
Buick is lexux (that is another joke lutz)
Caddillac is mercedes ( and that is another joke lutz)
Saturn is opel (it is not. if it was we would have opel diesel engines and all of its models)
Get payed for loosing billions
Get payed for loosing over 10% of market share.
Get payed for ignoring small cars and only making suvs and trucks.
It must be nice to be gm manager you will make millions for running company out of business.
 

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The monumental short-sightedness of not bothering to have the Beat US-certified boggles the mind. It qualifies as less a business move than a bowel movement. The people in charge at GM shouldn’t get salaries from anyone. They should be cleaning chewing gum from sidewalks.

Trained monkeys could do better than the crumb-bums in the RenCen.
Amen to that.......goin all the way back to Roger Smith.......:rolleyes:
 
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