[grumbles]

That's right, world domination. Too many people may be blinded by the nazi style ways of toyota, but I for one am not. They are a ruthless company that will destroy the fabric of America if they could. Toyota is evil. I will not be tricked. And noone willl convince me otherwise. I do not want to grow old knowing Japan defeated America.

:rotf:I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.

Really, no company is infallible. It's one guy who screwed up, CEO or not. I don't see how this all of a sudden discredits Toyota as a company.

Better yet, I don't remember any other automakers saying anything about women in the auto-industry, influenced by a sexual harassment case or not.

I really don't believe there are more than a handful of people out there who think so highly of Toyota as a company.

 

[Mikkoo]

This is like a bloody nose for Toyota. It doesn't help there squeaky clean reputation. LOL

 

[PRO_USA1776]

Toyota is evil. I will not be tricked. And noone willl convince me otherwise. I do not want to grow old knowing Japan defeated America.

I guess there is hope in this world when I read this from someone living in California!

 

[K-1]

This is what I'm tired of seeing: "Press Promotion to President a First for Toyota America".

"Sure the old President/CEO was a little too 'hands-on', but look, an American is now the President of Toyota America. They really are an American company now!" - Sheep

 

[Havasavana]

Remember GM's retarded efforts during the 1960s when Nader was the enemy?
If a corporation behaves ethically, they won't have to scramble to make up siht to cover their asses. Big shots typically think their huge egos trump the need for honesty, and they can get away with things the common man can't. Often they do; look at congress. But everyone crashes and burns the same.
And the beat goes on...

Exactly right. Others, with direct knowledge, have said here that women are not treated with adequate respect in Japan, i.e.; it's the custom. This is no excuse at all. We all, especially those in positions of power over others, have a responsibility to think of other people and how our actions affect them. So he knew he was wrong before, during and after he did it. OK, I'm assuming he was guilty, but Toyota seems to be doing the same and I don't think they're making an assumption.

Really, no company is infallible. It's one guy who screwed up, CEO or not. I don't see how this all of a sudden discredits Toyota as a company.

Better yet, I don't remember any other automakers saying anything about women in the auto-industry, influenced by a sexual harassment case or not.

It wasn't just one guy screwing up. Toyota, and every other organization, commercial and otherwise, should have procedures in place to provide people who feel they have been treated unfairly a way to get redress. Toyota seems not to have such procedures and she was apparently told to 'work it out' with the offending party. No even close to adequate.

I don't think I've read anything about the percentage of engineers, product planners, etc. of the various companies who are women, and GM nor the others are capable of manufacturing qualified people of any gender, race, etc. They have to hire from the available talent. But, whether the percentages of buyers/influencers is 40/50-80/90 or whatever, there is no reason why women should not be consulted extensively in determining many choices in what's available in areas such as safety, color and many other factors. This is just good business. I've read snippets from time to time indicating GM has a lot of room for improvement in this regard. Camaro's, VVT, etc. are nice, but getting all useful input from woman is doable and should be done.

 

[tgagneguam]

I wouldnt sit here and call Toyota's PR the best or better then GM, on the other side GMs PR people have been able to keep the company rolling even with its extremely bad image and press it has been getting. They do such a good job that its hard to say what is a PR move and what isnt at GM, its not typical PR moves.

Toyota has had it easy being a fav. of the press for many years.

You're right. GM has such a negative image because its PR department is tops in the industry. Sure, that makes perfect sense.

 

[johnny smallblock]

Remember GM's retarded efforts during the 1960s when Nader was the enemy?

Considering I wasn't yet born and I'm still old enough to have had a child in his/her teens, no...

GM hired prostitutes to go to Nader's house and filmed it hoping he would invite them inside. He didn't. The story came out. ... GM had to redesign the Corvair.

 

[GM-10]

Who doesn't think Toyota is just another company?

Zealots.

On both sides.

On one side, you've got people who think Toyota is perfect.
On the other, you've got people who think Toyota is the devil.

The reality is, they're just another company.

MF

In REALITY...it is Toyota that spins that it is the perfect company.

They set themselves up.

Clearly their executives know how to Move Forward....with female employees.;

 

[Ty_99]

Maybe Toyota is trying got make themselves American to try and destroy America in retaliation from WWII, when America served Japan there butts on a platter.
All Joking aside, Toyota is now just a company, and they are having trouble trying to deal with it, especially knowing the world (least N/A) has now had an insight into the way they run there company.

But it is interesting how they still wouldn't give one of their ultimate troopers (Jimmy Press) the CEO position. Guess they don't want a Good ole American boy making major decisions about Toyojunk N/A. Isn't the president Title by it's self just more or a figure head? the face of the company first to fall when times get hard, especially without a CEO, CFO, COO position to go with it? Maybe they are setting him up to be the Fall guy when Toyota falters and comes back down to the Automotive World.

 

[mbukukanyau]

Jim press is an American hating moron...

 

[MNdudeswitz]

Jim press is an American hating moron...

Just curious, but what is your broad defention of American hating??

 

[twinturboed]

In REALITY...it is Toyota that spins that it is the perfect company.

They set themselves up.

Clearly their executives know how to Move Forward....with female employees.;

Well, I guess Toyota does spin itself as the perfect company. But don't all companies do this, at least to some extent?

Can you imagine seeing a commercial saying, "Our vehicle offers excellent performance and a great value, but it's not perfect."

It's obviously part of Toyota's strategy to strive for perfection or at least seem like they are doing so, but I don't think that's necessarily good or bad. It's just business, and it seems to have worked for Toyota. I don't think it makes Toyota evil.

 

[nadepalma]

In a business where women probably influence 95 percent of the purchasing decisions (the official number is closer to 50 percent but who's kidding whom?) and account for nearly half the purchases in the market, there simply aren't enough of them at the top of these companies to be commensurate with what's really going on in the market.

great line. hahaha, I can hear all the pundits yelling right about now.

It's a company obsessed with convincing America and Americans that they're a proud American company, when in fact they will never be - no matter how they spin it.

This kind of ties into what Jason Vines over at Chrysler was talking about in that post from last week (that has since been removed, I understand), but definitely a tie in. Toyota does seem to be hell bent on convincing people they are an all American brand, an American company, etc. And of course nothing could be further from the truth -- not only b/c Toyota's profits go back to Japan, but also b/c that isn't what the brand stands for. Folks in India aren't fooled into thinking that the Chevy Spark is Indian despite being built locally -- so why would American think the same way about Toyota? Granted, they have a big footprint here, and that's great for workers and tax-rolls, but it doesn't make them "American". Nice that PDL picked up on this and put it in there, cause other folks are ready to proclaim American as Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Toyota.

 

[Geotpf]

This kind of ties into what Jason Vines over at Chrysler was talking about in that post from last week

Toyota is as American as Chrysler is (that is to say, neither are, although they both have large operations here).

 

[T-Type]

GM hired prostitutes to go to Nader's house and filmed it hoping he would invite them inside. He didn't. The story came out. ... GM had to redesign the Corvair.

Ha Ha, is that true? I never heard that. I can't believe they would think he would let in some women he never met before.

 

[danmor]

They must have messed up on their research, I believe Nader is gay.

 

[Canuck]

Does Wagoner even have a wife??? I mean, he's not exactly a lady's man.

What if anything at all does your post have to do with this topic?

So you don't like how a guy looks? What does his family life have to do with how he runs GM?
Are you more attractive than Wagoner?
Are you comparing how GM executives look to Toyota's executives?
I guess you prefer handsome executives than say someone who knows more about the industry they are working in?
I realize you are a Toyota fan but how is bringing up Wagoner and his ability to be a 'lady's man' of any value?

 

[Mags]

In REALITY...it is Toyota that spins that it is the perfect company.

They set themselves up.

Clearly their executives know how to Move Forward....with female employees.;

So GM doesn't try and portray themselves as an ideal company?
Or Ford?
Or Nissan?
Or DCX?

Give me a break. Stop sipping the gin.

MF

 

[asim]

I really didn't expect him to rant about Toyota like that, but he is right!

LOL...after all it is autoextremist.

 

[GM-10]

So GM doesn't try and portray themselves as an ideal company?
Or Ford?
Or Nissan?
Or DCX?

Give me a break. Stop sipping the gin.

MF

No...they don't.

They are not so arrogant as to call their production system the "Respect for Humanity System"

Give me **************** ing break.

I'm not exactly a Ford, Nissan, DCX, PSA or FIAT fan either...but they aren't that full of **************** either...

Give it up...your in love with Toyota. I understand.