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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/cadillac/ats/first-drives/cadillac-ats-coupe-first-drive-review

A coupé version of Cadillac’s premium executive ATS saloon, launched in the US in 2012 to challenge the BMW 3-series, Mercedes-Benz C-class and Audi A4.

Cadillac’s challenging the best of Germany might sound laughable when you recall the wheeled shortfall that was the Saab 9-3-based BLS. This sorry reskin was the brand’s last serious effort to build a car to tempt Europeans, its key class-beating feature a depreciation curve resembling a Himalayan scree-slope. But you can’t accuse Cadillac of giving up.

True, you can now only buy left-hookers from long-time official importer Bauer Millet, but the company still harbours a late-decade plan to return with right-hand drive models.

In the meantime, there’s this 4-series-rivalling ATS coupé. While America’s most prestigious car brand is a near silent player in Britain, in the US it has doggedly continued with its rehabilitation as a premium sporting brand.

The ultra-rare, ultra-fast and hugely entertaining CTS-V proves that this mission is not so fanciful, and the ATS saloon has surprised plenty with its capabilities too.

The ATS coupé gets off to a decent start with its subtly chiseled, subtly wedged style, its dynamic ambitions underlined by a promisingly athletic wheel-to-arch stance.

Your hopes rise higher when you step inside, a tasteful mix of double-stitched leather, Alcantara, open-pored wood (call it textured) contrasting with piano black inserts and satin chrome highlights. It looks classy, and a little different too.

Mechanically, this Cadillac could almost be European, which is less surprising when programme engineer Waqar Hashim tells you of its 4-series and Audi A5 targets.

Up front there’s a downsized 2.0-litre turbo yielding 272bhp and a 295lb ft , and though you can only have it with a six-speed automatic, its ratios can be shuffled via elegant magnesium paddles.

Better yet, the four pot drives the rear wheels located by a five-arm multilink axle, the front end suspended by geometrically superior double-jointed struts. And on the two-wheel drive ATS you get magneto-rheological (MR) dampers.

There’s also an all-wheel drive ATS with conventional shockers among a six-model range starting at £34,395. Besides striving for an idealized suspension architecture, Cadillac has worked to provide excellent steering feel.

It has also chased a rigid, low-mass body structure, says Hashim. Among the body shell’s various high strength metals is a press hardened steel so strong that it can only be stamped when it’s heated and more malleable.

It allows for a usefully lighter B pillar, roof and side impact structure that complies with the assorted roof-crush and rollover tests, Cadillac eager to reduce the ATS coupé’s upper body weight in the interests of handling. The roofline sits 20mm lower than the saloon’s for the same reason.

On a comparable specification basis, Hashim claims that the ATS is lighter than its three German coupé rivals, too.
What is it like?

Getting comfortable is easy, your driving mission enhanced by a clear head-up display, a conveniently located (and heavily featured) infotainment system and an excellent driving position.

The ATS feels decently brisk from step-off, and refined too, but your overriding impression will be of a robustly constructed car of quiet sophistication. It rides well, the steering swivels with satisfyingly liquid precision and the Caddy noses into bends with authority.

On the autobahn, Cadillac’s efforts to configure a near 50:50 weight distribution and evenly matched front-to-rear lift coefficients are rewarded with reassuring high-speed stability. There’s some wind noise, but on the motorway things are still pretty relaxed.

So is the spearing of bends, the ATS is a measured attacker and a grippy one too, the reduced weight of its roof structure doubtless contributing to modest body roll.

Its abilities soon have you pushing it hard enough to trigger the surprise intervention of some over-keen seat-belt tensioners.

A recalibration is planned, and needs to be. The chassis would be more enjoyable if the six-speed gearbox was an eight-speeder (coming, eventually), an upgrade that should diminish its kickdown thumps. It’s not the speediest shifter either.

The 2.0-litre turbo motor is more convincing with its strong mid-range pull, but its spirited high-rev pulses border on the harsh, its rev-limit isn’t very high and you’ll uncover a distinct low-rev torque-hole when you’re paddle-shifting.

More practically, the comfortable rear seats are marred by limited headroom and the absurd maneuvers required to clear the badly arranged front belts. A neat feature is an air conditioning control panel in the centre console stack that lifts to reveal a wireless phone-charger pad and some extra storage. A shame, though, that the touch-sensitive switches of the aircon panel itself aren’t more intuitive to use.
Should I buy one?

The ATS is a quietly satisfying car that scores high for its interior, aura of quality, a more than capable chassis and its individuality. Drive one of these, and the chances of seeing one coming the other way are close to nil.

That fact will need to be a major purchase motivation, because this Cadillac is left-hand drive only (as they all are now) and it’s only available from one Manchester-based dealer. Plus, while it’s competitive, it doesn’t best a BMW 428i. But if you like the left-field, this subtly charming car is worth a thought.

Cadillac ATS coupé 2.0L Premium Collection

Price £42,297; 0-62mph 6.2sec; Top speed 149mph; Economy 34.0mpg; CO2 193g/km; Kerb weight 1606kg; Engine 4 cyls, 1998cc, turbo, petrol; Power 272bhp at 5500rpm ; Torque 295lb ft at 3000-4500rpm; Gearbox 6-speed automatic
 

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"A recalibration is planned, and needs to be. The chassis would be more enjoyable if the six-speed gearbox was an eight-speeder (coming, eventually), an upgrade that should diminish its kickdown thumps. It’s not the speediest shifter either. The 2.0-litre turbo motor is more convincing with its strong mid-range pull, but its spirited high-rev pulses border on the harsh, its rev-limit isn’t very high and you’ll uncover a distinct low-rev torque-hole when you’re paddle-shifting"

"while it’s competitive, it doesn’t best a BMW 428i"

So - it just needs changes to the powertrain ?
 

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So - it just needs changes to the powertrain ?
I actually agree with them. The power trains are the ATS's weakest link by far. Other than that, the car is fantastic.

That's not to say my 3.6/A6 isn't good, but it can (and should) be more power, more refined, and get better fuel economy.
 

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I hate reading reviews like this Cadillac are no more interested in selling ATS as Ford are selling a F-150 in the UK through Bauer Millet in Manchester, Cadillac try to act pretentiously impress you as if they are serious on selling cars in the UK, Ford treat tell it like it is a grey importer of LHD car into RHD UK.

It's says "True, you can now only buy left-hookers from long-time official importer Bauer Millet" you can also buy LHD Ram, Silverado, F-Series, Camaro, Vipers, Stingrays, Chargers etc all left hand drive from Bauer Millet in their assault on the UK market just like Cadillac, l doubt very much if they make more than a few sales year why because they are LHD.

1 Manchester grey import dealer selling left hookers, Cadillac are not going anywhere in Europe.

How far do you think BMW & Mercedes would get in the USA selling them the Cadillac way, through just 1 grey importer based in a Detroit Ghetto, offering just right hookers, they would sell about 1 car year just like Cadillac. But BMW and Mercedes don't operate like that in the US or the UK.

Good job l don't take Cadillac as seriously as Autocar & Rupert Trooper do anymore, Cadillac are going absolutely nowhere in the UK sales will remain 0 all the time they offer LHD through 1 UK grey importer.

RHD UK Sales of LEFT-HAND-DRIVE cars 2014 (Jan-March)
Ford Mustang 8 sales
F-150 5 sales
Dodge Ram 5 sales
Chevrolet Camaro 2 sales
Cadillac ATS 0 sales
Cadillac CTS 0 sales
Cadillac Escalade 0 sales
Silverado 0 sales

NOBODY BUYS LHD CARS IN THE UK!!! (30 million RHD cars on UK roads)

These new LHD car were probably all sold through Bauer Millet in Manchester. Ford are not so pretentious as serious as Cadillac that try to make out they have a massive sales assort on the UK, to Ford the F-150 it's just truck sourced by Bauer Millet in Manchester a grey car importer.

Rule No1 Cadillac fit the steering wheel on the right side of the car!!!
Why do RHD Japanese not sell RHD Camry/Accords or RHD British made Jaguar/Land Rover not try to save a few bucks by fitting the steering wheel incorrect side of the car for the North American market, they could also save lots of money if they only had one dealer located in a low rent Detroit ghetto selling RHD cars done on the cheap with steering wheels.

LHD American Honda Accord USA sales August.
51,000

RHD American Honda Accord only sold in RHD at just 1 USA dealer to save a few bucks - sales August (If done the way Cadillac operate in the UK)
0

I am glad l don't take Cadillac to seriously anymore, carry on doing LHD Cadillacs the sales remain 0 for as long as Cadillac want sell 0 cars, what more is there to say Rupert (LOL a different gearbox, 2.0L diesel, more UK LHD Caddy dealers selling 0 cars = 0 sales still)?
 

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I can't believe gm can not offer its cars in right hand drive. It's almost an embarrassment at this point in time. Jmo
 
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That's total bull****. GMNA could give 2 ****s about your teeny tiny not worth the time sales numbers. Holden however, if they didn't go after LHD sales would tank their bottom line. You need to come to grips with the fact that the RHD market is so small it is meaningless.
 

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That's total bull****. GMNA could give 2 ****s about your teeny tiny not worth the time sales numbers. Holden however, if they didn't go after LHD sales would tank their bottom line. You need to come to grips with the fact that the RHD market is so small it is meaningless.
So "meaningless" that the rest of the worlds car makers manage to build right and wrong hand drive but GMNA cant be bothered

Maybe YOU need to come to grips that the world does not revolve around the USA :rolleyes:
 

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That's total bull****. GMNA could give 2 ****s about your teeny tiny not worth the time sales numbers. Holden however, if they didn't go after LHD sales would tank their bottom line. You need to come to grips with the fact that the RHD market is so small it is meaningless.
Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Mercedes Benz amongst many others think otherwise....
 

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So "meaningless" that the rest of the worlds car makers manage to build right and wrong hand drive but GMNA cant be bothered

Maybe YOU need to come to grips that the world does not revolve around the USA :rolleyes:
LOL Wrong-Hand-Drive that tickled me made me laugh.

Caddy make brilliant cars then fit them Wrong-Hand-Drive the only quality car maker in Europe that does this, every car maker offers everything in RHD. One-third of the world is RHD, Barra just had a holiday in RHD India, that will be the next big car market to take off.

Ford of Europe sales 2013 best markets in Europe.
No1 RHD Great Britain 381,800
No2 LHD Germany 224,100
No3 LHD Turkey 113,100
No4 LHD Russia 106,700
No5 LHD Italy 93,500

Ford of Europe 2013 Sales Fact sheet.
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Germany, Turkey, Russia all assemble Ford cars, French are not one bit interested in Fords as they don't get a Ford car to assemble, both the Germans and Turks would be the same. Ford does not assemble a British made car.

RHD Ford UK line-up
RHD Ka
RHD Fiesta
RHD B-Max
RHD Focus
RHD C-Max
RHD Kuga
RHD Mondeo
RHD S-Max
RHD Galaxy
RHD Tourneo
RHD Transit Connect
RHD Transit
RHD Ranger

Coming soon
RHD Mustang
RHD Edge

Thats typical RHD line-up for every car maker that sells in the UK, they all offer RHD.

RHD Cadillac UK line-up/UK sales
0/0

Ford Top 5 EU countries by market share.
1. RHD Ford Great Britain 14.7%
2. LHD Ford Turkey 12.9%
3. RHD Ireland 11.7%
4. LHD Hungary 10.8%
5. LHD Denmark 8.8%

2013 LHD Cadillac of Europe sales 391
2013 RHD Ford UK sales 381,800

Cadillac just don't get it, if you don't give Germans, French, Turkish LHD Cadillac car assembly lines they give you the one fingered salute when you offer them proper LHD cars that are correct for the country, RHD UK is the most open minded cosmopolitan car buying market in the EU, and Cadillac gives it the big one finger to RHD. Caddy just don't get it.
 

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Great results from a great car. We know Cadillac is working on RHD, so why spend another 5 pages demanding GM have it now and complaining how stupid GM is for not having it. Yes, it should have been available from the start and the last gen CTS should have had it as well along with the Vette, etc.. But the fact is it isn't available, they are working on it and it will get here (er, there - being I'm in the USA).
 

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Great results from a great car. We know Cadillac is working on RHD, so why spend another 5 pages demanding GM have it now and complaining how stupid GM is for not having it. Yes, it should have been available from the start and the last gen CTS should have had it as well along with the Vette, etc.. But the fact is it isn't available, they are working on it and it will get here (er, there - being I'm in the USA).
You don't "work on RHD" - you either design/build both LHD/RHD or you don't - it's not practical or cost-effective to do RHD on LHD vehicles once they're already signed-off.

Or maybe "working on RHD" means still trying to educate the management board that going global means including RHD.
 

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Maybe YOU need to come to grips that the world does not revolve around the USA :rolleyes:
The sad truth is the world does revolve around the USA...

Name any world topic and it will inevitably come back to the reaction pro or con from the United States, its "leaders," corporations, financial markets and public opinion (and pop culture). I'm not stating that out of any jingoistic bombast, but simply stating a fact. Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant. It is what it is. Nightly news broadcasts around the world carry speeches by Barack Obama. I'm sure all your friends know who he is. Why? Because when my countrymen elect a buffoon like George W. Bush or Barack Obama to the Presidency it matters to the world. I'd be shocked if more than one tenth of one percent of Americans know who either Tony Abbott, Stephen Harper or David Cameron are. That's not out of disrespect. It's reality. The U.S. seized the mantle, or the "free" world (those civilized countries not part of the Soviet Bloc) gave it to them post WWII, whichever way you want to look at it. Its influence is shrinking somewhat, but it's still the big boy on the block and it carries a lot of weight...

Now, all that being said, Cadillac/GM should've had RHD models ready to go sooner rather than later. There's no real excuse other than poor product planning... Imagine that, poor planning from GM...;)
 

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The sad truth is the world does revolve around the USA...
Really?

Name the world's top luxury car manufacturers (all European) - name the world's top 3 premium car manufacturers (all European) - name the world's top 4 volume car manufacturers (2 Asian, 1 European + GM).

The sad fact is that the USA doesn't understand global - in particular GMNA doesn't understand global, without the efforts of Holden and Opel/Vauxhall GM would be a US-only manufacturer.

It's a fact of life that Americans will buy cars from all around the world - while few American cars are sold outside North America - it's not down to tariffs, it's down to the fact that American cars don't appeal outside North America.
 

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Cadillac isn't exactly doing well in the LHD parts of Europe - until they've cracked that market the lack of RHD is a minor issue.
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That's just it. People think Cadillac cares about Europe right now but they don't. Not because it isn't important, but because it will account for a very small portion of their business for a long time. The US and China will account for overwhelming majority of their business through 2020.

It makes no sense, at this moment, to spend the kind of money and resources necessary to penetrate RHD and diesel oriented markets. The cost will far out weight the benefits. RHD and diesels are coming later this decade once Cadillac develops their modular engine architecture and has the money necessary to attack those markets. De Ny has already stated their intention for this. Cadillac isn't ignoring these markets. It just isn't the priority right now, nor should it be.
 

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You don't "work on RHD" - you either design/build both LHD/RHD or you don't - it's not practical or cost-effective to do RHD on LHD vehicles once they're already signed-off.

Or maybe "working on RHD" means still trying to educate the management board that going global means including RHD.
You still have got to have more than just one dealership located in a Manchester slum Rupert as well, can't imagine how Cadillac General Motors would do in the US if they only had one dealership in the country, but that how Cadillac operates in the UK.
 
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